MaxAyam Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 My first try at making a comp, let me know if you see any weakness or ways to improve it. Spoiler Scizor @ Choice Band Ability: Technician EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD Adamant Nature - Bullet Punch - U-turn - Pursuit - Superpower Jolteon @ Choice Specs Ability: Volt Absorb EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Modest Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Volt Switch - Thunderbolt - Shadow Ball - Hidden Power [Ice] Chansey (F) @ Eviolite Ability: Natural Cure EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD Bold Nature - Seismic Toss - Soft-Boiled - Toxic - Stealth Rock Skarmory @ Rocky Helmet Ability: Sturdy EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 Spe Impish Nature - Brave Bird - Defog - Roost - Whirlwind Reuniclus @ Leftovers Ability: Magic Guard EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA Bold Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Calm Mind - Recover - Psychic - Focus Blast Gliscor @ Toxic Orb Ability: Poison Heal EVs: 244 HP / 52 Def / 76 SpD / 136 Spe Jolly Nature - Swords Dance - Earthquake - Facade - Roost Goldeneyes 1 Link to comment
pachima Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 seems solid enough. Glaring weaknesses I can see (yet they can be played around) are darmanitan/arcanine and taunt hydreigon. Luckily, first two are not that common in our metagame. You might have some issues against hp ice mienshao but still able to play around it. Link to comment
hannahtaylor Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, MaxAyam said: My first try at making a comp, let me know if you see any weakness or ways to improve it. Hide contents Scizor @ Choice Band Ability: Technician EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD Adamant Nature - Bullet Punch - U-turn - Pursuit - Superpower Jolteon @ Choice Specs Ability: Volt Absorb EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Modest Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Volt Switch - Thunderbolt - Shadow Ball - Hidden Power [Ice] Chansey (F) @ Eviolite Ability: Natural Cure EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD Bold Nature - Seismic Toss - Soft-Boiled - Toxic - Stealth Rock Skarmory @ Rocky Helmet Ability: Sturdy EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 Spe Impish Nature - Brave Bird - Defog - Roost - Whirlwind Reuniclus @ Leftovers Ability: Magic Guard EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA Bold Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Calm Mind - Recover - Psychic - Focus Blast Gliscor @ Toxic Orb Ability: Poison Heal EVs: 244 HP / 52 Def / 76 SpD / 136 Spe Jolly Nature - Swords Dance - Earthquake - Facade - Roost Gliscor doesn't get poison heal on MMO Link to comment
MaxAyam Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, hannahtaylor said: Gliscor doesn't get poison heal on MMO What?!? Sand veil and hyper cutter are useless =.=" Is it still worth using gliscor? Edited August 14, 2019 by MaxAyam Link to comment
suigin Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, MaxAyam said: What?!? Sand veil and hyper cutter are useless =.=" No they aren't. Sure, Poison Heal is infinitely better but they aren't bad at all. Link to comment
razimove Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 52 minutes ago, MaxAyam said: What?!? Sand veil and hyper cutter are useless =.=" Is it still worth using gliscor? sand veil is very legit and so is hyper cutter, worth reading this https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sandstorm-isnt-the-only-thing-that-is-raging-peaked-1-on-suspect.3539069/ Link to comment
MaxAyam Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Ok maybe they have their uses but I'm using reuniclus and gliscor to sweep thinking they'll be immune to statuses.. Sand veil is not useful for my comp. Any replacement? Link to comment
kiwi Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 voltturn cores should avoid pokemon that kill momentum like chansey or skarmory Link to comment
RIchardZheng Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 9 hours ago, MaxAyam said: My first try at making a comp, let me know if you see any weakness or ways to improve it. Hide contents Scizor @ Choice Band Ability: Technician EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD Adamant Nature - Bullet Punch - U-turn - Pursuit - Superpower Jolteon @ Choice Specs Ability: Volt Absorb EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Modest Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Volt Switch - Thunderbolt - Shadow Ball - Hidden Power [Ice] Chansey (F) @ Eviolite Ability: Natural Cure EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD Bold Nature - Seismic Toss - Soft-Boiled - Toxic - Stealth Rock Skarmory @ Rocky Helmet Ability: Sturdy EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 Spe Impish Nature - Brave Bird - Defog - Roost - Whirlwind Reuniclus @ Leftovers Ability: Magic Guard EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA Bold Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Calm Mind - Recover - Psychic - Focus Blast Gliscor @ Toxic Orb Ability: Poison Heal EVs: 244 HP / 52 Def / 76 SpD / 136 Spe Jolly Nature - Swords Dance - Earthquake - Facade - Roost Pretty good team, but I would change a few things. That Gliscor seems to have a bit of an identity crisis. Not sure if he wants to be a tank that sticks around or a sweeper that hits hard. Swords dance (sweeper setup) but not going all in on attack seems strange. You are willing to invest 1/4 moves for sweeping but almost none of the EVs (not max speed or attack). Then you plop on roost which means 2/4 moves are dedicated to setup/heal/stall. I would go all in for attack if that is what you want out of it. If sweeping is what you want (I assume since you already have tanks), then try out flying gem + acrobatics (a VERY strong attack) along with swords dance (obviously), substitute (serves a similar role to roost, but better for offense) and earthquake (STAB bonus). Throw in max attack EVs and max Speed EVs. Your team doesn't need another flying tank, you already got skarmory after all. Also go with adamant for that extra attack If you change Gliscor, drop brave bird on skarmory for taunt. Skarmory is not the ideal flying attacker (you got gliscor after all), might as well double down on that tanky support role. Or maybe use spikes and get a spikes + stealth rock combo going since you got lots of pokemon that can force a swap. Also I would take Psychock over Psychic but that choice is more personal and neither is a bad choice Link to comment
MaxAyam Posted August 15, 2019 Author Share Posted August 15, 2019 9 hours ago, kiwi said: voltturn cores should avoid pokemon that kill momentum like chansey or skarmory 4 hours ago, RIchardZheng said: Pretty good team, but I would change a few things. That Gliscor seems to have a bit of an identity crisis. Not sure if he wants to be a tank that sticks around or a sweeper that hits hard. Swords dance (sweeper setup) but not going all in on attack seems strange. You are willing to invest 1/4 moves for sweeping but almost none of the EVs (not max speed or attack). Then you plop on roost which means 2/4 moves are dedicated to setup/heal/stall. I would go all in for attack if that is what you want out of it. If sweeping is what you want (I assume since you already have tanks), then try out flying gem + acrobatics (a VERY strong attack) along with swords dance (obviously), substitute (serves a similar role to roost, but better for offense) and earthquake (STAB bonus). Throw in max attack EVs and max Speed EVs. Your team doesn't need another flying tank, you already got skarmory after all. Also go with adamant for that extra attack If you change Gliscor, drop brave bird on skarmory for taunt. Skarmory is not the ideal flying attacker (you got gliscor after all), might as well double down on that tanky support role. Or maybe use spikes and get a spikes + stealth rock combo going since you got lots of pokemon that can force a swap. Also I would take Psychock over Psychic but that choice is more personal and neither is a bad choice Initially, I wanted to make a offensive voltturn team but there aren't many great voltturn cores on pokemmo so I made it semi-stally with scizor jolteon for some momentum. My plan was to use chansey skarmory to stall against offensive team and using toxic, stealth rock+whirlwind to wear it down. Against stall team, I would target its hazer and setup with bulky offense gliscor or reuniclus but since gliscor doesn't get poison heal, it's not going to fit this role. Link to comment
RIchardZheng Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 14 hours ago, MaxAyam said: Initially, I wanted to make a offensive voltturn team but there aren't many great voltturn cores on pokemmo so I made it semi-stally with scizor jolteon for some momentum. My plan was to use chansey skarmory to stall against offensive team and using toxic, stealth rock+whirlwind to wear it down. Against stall team, I would target its hazer and setup with bulky offense gliscor or reuniclus but since gliscor doesn't get poison heal, it's not going to fit this role. For VoltTurn, the best mons I can think of are Darmanitan, Magnezone (scarf), Jolteon, Scizor and a few other U-Turn users. Chansey and Skarmory are a good defensive core, pretty solid in general. Against a stall team, reuniclus is a great pokemon to setup with. If you want bulky offense, I find conkledurr a good, if slow, fit. Able to take a hit and deal out powerful priority attacks is always desired. Link to comment
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