Luke

1m deers win the week 1m on my game

DO NOT BET WITH QUINN HE SCAMMED ME OF 1M.

Lots of weird prices tbh, looks like people had no sense or scale of how much 25-30 credits truly was. They overpaid majorly on so many players, 25 should’ve been the absolute max you pay for a single player. 30 is absolutely insane, for anyone. This made managers more scared than usual to bid on anyone and caused some super low prices on good players. Overall I think the question is ‘who’s worse’ rather than ‘who’s better’ I think most of the teams are around the same level, wtf was doc doing lmao. Doc and Queests look like they have the most potential issues for me. Rest look around the same level more or less

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Yeah, the old PSL’s of JJ coaching people as the host, someone playing on 2 accounts & people mass drafting mid season to opposing teams in a loophole sure were the epitome of high level mmo events. My bad.

How to make me happy: don’t be biased. Isn’t hard, imagine polling something which we haven’t had for the last 2 PSL’s and not including an option to reject it.

Cos it’s not a due and fair process. There’s clear bias from the outset of the event , which I ignored last time. And it bit me in the ass. I don’t care what everyone else is doing, they don’t have the experience with hosts that I do.

Ok, why didn’t you do it from the start? And why not give the option now to correct this mistake. Allow others to swap donations above 1m if they so wish to.

still no option, why not let people decide what's chosen? Instead of forcing your choice onto others. There is a significant amount of people who want no SD tiers.

Where's the donation pot for no showdown tiers?????????????

nvm

Really like the blitz idea. Could see some interesting tournaments with that.

Please stop quoting my posts

Why any showdown tiers? It's a managers worst nightmare - trying to find someone good when no one publicly plays showdown tiers is awful, often the competition is really low except from 1-2 people. And managers get their friends who only play showdown to enter and wreck some scrubs cos they are like a top 50 in-the-tier-player smogon tour winner. Why are we bringing back showdown? I thought this was dead and buried and I was thankful for it..

Bring back Co-Managers. I really liked the implementation then it immediately got nuked... Bring back Co-Managers.. I really liked the implementation then it got nuked...

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It shouldn’t happen because we don’t have a meta capable of handling it. We have also like 60 new HA’s with no idea what any meta will look like in 3 months.

We don't currently have usage placements while HA's are being added. Usually I'd agree, so would the rest of TC. But we literally have 60* Pokemon with HA's being added... This is why we are currently not using usage placements during this brief yet weird period of tiering. Many Pokemon which are in lower tiers are there because without their Hidden Ability they are not viable in higher tiers. But this all changes when they are added. If we leave these Pokemon there and just rely on usage to bump them up, we are gonna have 1-3 months of (rightfully) very angry players flaming TC for breaking the lower tiers & not taking action to prevent broken tiers. You're right, we don't 100% know this. However as a group unit we are trying our best to correctly tier the Pokemon, and what is the alternative that you are presenting? Letting 10-15* Pokemon which are likely too strong to stay in NU and UU, stay there and it be an absolute unplayable bloodbath? Every decision we make is public and can be questioned and scrutinised on this thread. We have defended every position we have made, and if we have been proven wrong we have changed our decision. It is not based on pure prediction that they will rise there. This is an aspect for certain Pokemon, but the majority are based upon what we deem is healthy for the metagame. But we are also taking into consideration that if a Pokemon is almost certain to rise (in our opinions) what is the value of letting it stay in a tier, people to build in that tier for it.. For it immediately to move up? I'd like to close this by saying, this isn't a dictatorship. If you disagree with a placement we have done you can post in this thread and your voice will be heard.. You can refer back to Quagsire, people here made some convincing posts and it made me re-evaluate my vote & I changed accordingly. Which enabled a Pokemon's tiering to change. We are trying to be very transparent about the process and allow people outside of the TC to chime in and give value to the discussion which we are very actively listening to.

I have no problems with any of the current placements except the ones above, I personally think Crawdaunt may be too strong for UU. And I did in fact vote for it to be OU. And potentially in the future let it drop if the usage in OU was low & we had more answers added. However this didn't happen, and I think we should proceed with extreme caution of just how strong it can be. I wont link calcs because it will be covering ground which has already been covered, you can see them above this post. Quagsire, I voted for UU initially but have reconsidered and have opted to change my vote for it to be in NU. (And I believe this has caused for it to go to NU now)

Why is the break not this week? Halloween lasts like 3 days and the event isn't even worth grinding past the first hour. People are not gonna adhere to this non HA rule cos like 21 will be added over the span of the week Lmao, not to mention no one has had time to adjust. Gonna see weird auto sweeps, low quality matches and people losing to stupid stuff.

Johtoday

I don't think cryptically making vague comments, or throwing out sarcastic remarks helps anyone on either side. In the future I ask can people please stop doing this, as it adds nothing to the discussion other than filler and you come across as an asshole. List off names of mons, provide calcs. Thanks.

Excuse my paint skills, but... Fairy Elfbot Set ... plz Edit: Apparently im blind

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The Scizor sets needed are sub-optimal and are pretty much specifically for Serperior. Roserade is frail, and I don't really count it as very good because it's good vs serp and rotom, bad against everything else. It has 1.2% usage in OU and the nature needed to beat Serperior has 12.5% usage amongst all roserades used in OU. I feel referencing Roserade is a poor answer at best. Venusaur cares about glare, and the majority are used in sun teams which don't care about Serp as much as other styles, defensive Venusaur is OK but I would not feel comfortable as referencing it as an answer because it's a niche at best. I believe having to reference such mons is very indicative of just how oppressive Serp can be. Agree with all points here. However I personally do not feel comfortable with Golbat becoming the best answer to Serp in OU... It does not feel right, we should have more answers for Serp in OU than just Golbat & Chansey... Not to mention these 2 mons force you to play in a very defensive playstyle. I should have been clearer, I did not mean that the mons I listed should be added ASAP. But that Serperior would be much healthier in a meta with those in. They are significantly more spashable, and you don't have to go out of your way to use them, unlike many of the answers I have seen listed so far. I was listing off some Pokemon of which in the future could potentially check / answer it. Some I listed are better at this than others. I was not speaking on behalf of TC. Nor was I making a statement that this is necessarily what needs to be added for serp to be healthy, I just just listing off potential checks / answers used in generations ahead of ours of which we do not currently have as an example that we are spread pretty thin when it comes to Serp answers. It is my personal belief that Serp should not be shelved forever with its HA because it's a great addition for OU. We just need more answers for it than we currently have for it to be healthy in an MMO meta.