Raederz
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nvm im too lazy these days maybe later
to be closed :x
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Yo, I think imma make it again, original post :
Little update I'll make just 40k for the ev training and nothing else, I'll start a new loyalty points list and in the next few days choose how I manage it.
So ..
510 EV : 40k $- Akshit and MaatthewMLG
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wow nice job !
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22 hours ago, Plankh said:
Please! Reduce the number of tickets... i have bought it when it ment to just 100 people... the tickets will never be sold this way.
Also changed the price so it's the exact same, just poorer ppl can still aford one
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Spoiler8 hours ago, Goku said:that is Irrelevant coming from someone who is in a team doing exactly what you are so against.
9 hours ago, Raederz said:What lowballers do is way different. I keep thinking it should not be allowed, but I also accept that as long as it's allowed, hating on forum is the most I can do.
Let me make my choices, and let my firends make their choices. Sometimes we have consensus (like when we all decided to have you out) and sometimes we dont, but we still enjoy the game together.
7 hours ago, Akshit said:Reasons why economy is the way it is:
- Pokeyen is way harder to farm
Not sure of what you mean by hard, but in my opinion it's more like it should be more disversified. There are already pretty easy ways to make little profit (lets say, 500k a day, is never that hard as long as you know what to do), but we are stuck is 4-5 viable ways to make $ which may be a problem.
QuoteConstant Factors due to which deflation hasn't made things better for many:
- Braces are still worth 10k, TMs still worth the same, etc... while everything else falls; result = people who make their own pokemon keep going broke
I'm not sure that reducing the money sink is right when there is an huge arrival of new players, but in another hand, I recently bred for sale, and noticed that many pokemon are not even worth to breed, being less valuable than the braces cost. So I may support this idea, but would prefer to find another solution about this problem, if one can be found.
4 hours ago, Anthrazit said:Auction house
To enable players to get the best price for their shiny, I still believe the mentioned implementation of an 'auction house' is the more helpful/important part.
It would also make statements like this obsolete:Auction is always a good thing for struggling economies, letting the trade be done with full information, on the object, on the value, and on the interest people give it.
Also, I prevents lowball a bit more than just wild trades.
It also let those who want to make profit, because Auctions rarely sell for 100% of the value.
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11 minutes ago, Aerun said:
So what ? What's the point posting that ?
Are you telling me that if you see, let's say, a shiny snorlax for 100k on GTL you wouldn't try to buy it as fast as possible ?
Not buyers' fault if new guys aren't smart enough to ask for values before selling their shit.
But yeah, I agree that lowball people isn't something to be proud of.
I would never compare sniping and lowballing.
Also blaming the victim intelligence is essence of scam.
Difference is honesty. By sniping on gtl, you're not hiding information you got.
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Just to anticipate the "let us make profit" argument, already seen in another discussion I had, people make profit, but they dont make it on other people ignorance. They make it on the situation. People can be particulary interested in stuff so they can overpay, but they know they are overpaying and they have reason for it (time, appreciation, ...), this is the difference between business and scam.
The guy who makes profit is the one who will be the intermediaite between the one who particularly wanna buy, and the one who particularly wanna sell, as long as the environement not always let them meet easily.
What lowballers do is way different. I keep thinking it should not be allowed, but I also accept that as long as it's allowed, hating on forum is the most I can do.
I mean, if I were a businessman who had responsibilities about shiny trading, having people who depend on my profit, I would use all ways I'm allowed to, to optimise my profit, including lowball, but theres a reason I dont do it. Pokemmo is a game. And I think that frustration, mine or others, should be avoided as much as possible in a game.
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13 minutes ago, Akshit said:
The moment a shiny pops up in the server, on the basis of it's rarity and appeal, it gets a value in the market.
The shiny market is not insignificant at all... Due to them having a monetary value, they can be exchanged for that money.
While there generation does not create pokeyen, it does affect the flow of pokeyen in the economy.
From a competitive player's point of view, maybe that is what the economy is all about.
But there are many who engage in Shiny and Vanity trade too... And those factors play a major role in our economy.
I think he meant that it's kind of a parallel market, like, people who do shiny business are mostly known and just trade together and lowball noobs. The $ they engage are not meant to anything that may have an impact on the gameplay.
He gives the comp player vision, and imo, -and im not even a bit of a comp player,- this is the most legit part. His vision gives us what's important, because the market really has an impact on his gameplay. Comp meta can be influenced by the market. Trading shinies wont be much affected, and if it's affected, the only part of that would feel it is the trading part, which is definitely part of every mmo, but less important than gameplay.
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This is just a private joke not a spoiler lol (or maybe private taunt idk)
3 minutes ago, Sengoku9191 said:Games dead because economy ?
No don't worry they just need shocking speech to satisfy their complaining need
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15 minutes ago, Aerun said:
Well then if you can't understand that the economy is dead nowadays it's because of the new influx of players, which most of them are Chinese I'd call you an idiot.
Like I said, I didn't shoot at Chinese people, I'm just saying facts, nothing wrong calling Chinese people Chinese.
Yet you post another irrelevant post, gj
Oh I get it, you just don't use the right words.
An economy -out of exception- always gets better by getting less impacted by individuals (perfect economy includes atomicity property).
In getting less impacted by individuals, I directly talk about the new influx of players.
What gets worse with this new influx of player, is the position of the already-in-business people, because the "tips" they used are getting more and more used, and turn to be less and less "easy profit".
In another hand it helps farming guys, by, with time, correlating earning (real earning, taking level of prices in account) and effort.
So ye, assuming your assumptions, the economy is good. It doesnt mean everybody is making more and more profit. It means that unfair profit is getting harder to find and make.
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Btw, as said before, this is pointless talk, because if your vision is biaised by your racism, mine may also be biaised by my way to play. We got nothing to hold, to make an objective speech
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10 minutes ago, Aerun said:
What is rare is you posting relevant stuffs on forums.
Just imagine yourself having the speech you have here, but in real life.
Idk in few month it grew a disgusting global racism in pokemmo like hating on chinese is hype.
So, maybe you think I'm off topic, but lately, every time I read words like "economy" and "chinese", I just hear "reason to complain"
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3 minutes ago, Zymogen said:
Good thing Raederz isn't a mod anymore otherwise no discussion would be allowed it seems
wut ?
I'm just pointing how discussing attempts are recieved by the complainers
Nice personnal attack you hurt me
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1 minute ago, Akshit said:
Also, this creates an opportunity for the people in 'economist' category to correct the ones who are simply annoyed and discussing without experience.
Like the non-informed people would accept that their complain isnt legit ?
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1 minute ago, Sengoku9191 said:
Guys i just wanna play pokemon online ^-^
I dont think it helps in this disscusion but i dont care about the economy.
I wanna get badgeds catch up my team and troll around searching for a fight or event.
Hope this belongs to this threat at all since i talk about my mind ^^
Wow I just found an answer without racist asumptions, rarer than shinies these days
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6 minutes ago, Aerun said:
We all know
I did not
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3 minutes ago, Zymogen said:
I'm not demanding that something be implemented - if you cared to read the OP, you'll see that I'm looking to facilitate genuine discussion with the input of devs in order to get a feel for what's what. Your comment is pointless.
I'm not talking about this post but about the general situation around in pokemmo.
My point is pretty much same as yours, saying that any discussion is pointless if we keep as informed as today.Btw, it's not a necessity/a wish for all staff/devstaff to let players of their game analyse their economy
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Main problem is people discussing without experience on how to analyse stuff.
This is pointless, and nurtures the feeling of a shit economy for people who just .. read the complains, and don't try to get more involved in the reflexion/analysis.
Being annoyed by something that reduce your income doesnt make you an economist able to tell devs what to implement.
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Well I will use clear words as long as you cant understand.
My point is not that I encourage scam if it's done discreetly. My point is that scam is something you should be ashamed of, rules or not. And btw, considering lowball is not scam is maybe right if you focus on rules, but if you consider what a scam is, well lowball is a scam.
Feel free to be as dishonest as the rules let you be if that is what you want. (And again you may not get that I dont really want people to lowball but use the words in a way that show it in a negative point of view ?)
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12 hours ago, Goku said:
How can you not understand what you are reading?
And again you dont understand
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