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I have never seen a game in which all 6 mons want to jump on the field at the same time. Keeping something in the back is very normal for any game without team preview, especially if theres a lot of other good Pokemon to keep making threats or setting something before a final sweep (see DPP). On a more relevant note, since I've been thinking about what GB said where it might be checked by a tandem of threats making it not too broken, just really strong. How many of these mons in OU does Conk reliably setup on, and another question after one boost, how many does he cripple or just blow away? I don't really have an opinion on this part so this could be a point for discussion. Edit: Just for people who want to post calcs and things heres an example of what Conk can't reliably setup on Gengar 252 SpA Life Orb Gengar Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Conkeldurr: 126-149 (59.4 - 70.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage With damage like that, Conk cannot get a sweep going especially since he's slower, and the priority move doesn't effect gengar. Can he demolish gengar with payback or ice punch? Yes, but he took a load of damage and might be dying soon.

I like Cofagrigus, tbh of all the "checks" people throw out, I think the realest one is big ghost himself. If hazards and status weren't applied he does his job great. Still feels like conk is really hard to stop once he gets going, also relying on him and maybe Reuni are rather limiting for a tier with like 25+ mons. I mean with this logic, Rayquayza is fine since Weavile and Mamoswine have ice shard that can check easily. The problem lies in that since "nearly" no nice switchins exist Conk always trades above his weight in mons.

That's a luxury only enjoyed by people sitting in the back spectating. By the time you've found the moveset, maybe 2 Pokemon are dead (or effectively crippled). 4 move syndrome isn't as big of an issue with conk anyway, in that he only has to click buttons, and the responsibility is on the opponent to try find something that won't get smashed by a coverage move.

Not to undermine your argument or anything, but I think the allure of Dragonite is to throw off a hurricane which can scare Conkeldurr off usually. That being said, theres no way I'd ever make that hard switch unless I had life insurance or something when that juicy ice punch or stone edge comes around next time.

Nice method, I'll definitely have to try this. Thanks

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Ah yes when breeding a 4x31 and a 3x31 natured can somehow become a 2x31 with the wrong nature, truly a mystery that only Cheels can create.

Keeping us relevant 139 days until c h r i s t m a s

I feel like this is a rather useless/illogical method of moderating anyway because you are destroying somebodies hard work and trying to justify with personal opinion. Like @RakuenX if you still have the write up you should post in on a google docs and we can spread the work in other mediums (discord etc) if the forums are going to be unwelcoming of your effort

A lot of games end usually very one-sided, but I felt this one was down to the wire all the way quick edit heres an example of a one-sided game

To be fair you've never made mention of the nature of the alakazam what if you're running a sassy zam

Recycling something from the discord

I have no issues agreeing that scissor has a field day in general, and furthermore I agree that BP will knock out Gengar if it stays in. However please tell me @Gunthug switching gengar and staying in to focus blast are both options right? Isn’t this a form of 50/50 and thus require some prediction if scizor wants to kill gengar? It’s a scizor not a scarf tyranitar last time I checked. Also JJ is the g.o.a.t

My favourite part is being told I'm "blatantly wrong" from a guy who either can't do basic addition or must have the competitive experience of beating the E4 and thinks that he's the pokemon champion 252 SpA Life Orb Gengar Focus Blast vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Scizor: 107-126 (60.7 - 71.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ SpA Chandelure Shadow Ball vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Scizor: 48-57 (27.2 - 32.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO Remember that scizor is slower than both ghost types, you seem to be confusing scizor for Mega Metagross Each type scizor comes in when rocks are up he loses 12.5%. Please tell me what 60+27+25 = ? Nice strategy 100% of the time to kill, also please address other points provided seeing as you want to use the word "win" as if trapping gengar or chandelure is going to stop a freaking excadril from doing what it does best.

Yes if you want to talk about manufacturing situations I gotchu real good. a) The fact that scizor cannot be simultaneously locked into bullet punch, superpower and pursuit means that at the very least 1/2 the team has a method of resisting either steel or dark, and/or is immune to fighting. If you want to talk about switching out, things such as excadril can either take the free turn to setup or do massive damage. b) Excadril is literally faster than scizor, and does a huge chunk of damage to scizor c) If you want to continue to point out scizors ability to trap and/or revenge kill things, I will point out that the omnipresence of stealth rocks means scizor take 12.5% each switchin, therefore unless you make perfect predictions against gengar, and chandelure, scizor will be chipped and die quickly too. Furthermore CB scizor doesn't have a method of recovery so any chip adds up quickly. d) The goal if this team from what I can read is to ensure excadril can sweep, I fail to see how killing off some team members (especially when requiring almost perfect situations or perfect predictions to do so), will hinder the game plan of this team

Ah yes pursuit bait against the chandelure locked into flamethrower, and/or the fat jellicent which takes an astonishing 50% so it can wisp and cripple the scizor from the game. Some PSL top quality tactics I see here p.s The team is cool btw Balci, I personally don't like teams where the conkeldor switchin is hoping it doesn't have thunder punch, but you could probably outplay, (or maybe switch chandelure for a reuniclus), and if scizor is such a large issue, defensive gliscor is an option to try.

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen7lc-728813412 Manjume and I were (are) supposed to be starting soon but this happened

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7lc-717068960 I'm not actually sure who won in this game

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Whoever took down the server in the middle of the UU Community Combat when I was getting tossed by Aerun

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