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  1. Let me give you a concrete example: Game 1: Infernape full hp vs hippowdon + salamence + Blissey (Revealed set: Close combat - Hidden set: Hp ice, flame, grass knot) Game 2: Infernape full hp vs hippowdon + salamence + Blissey (Revealed set: Close combat - Hidden set: Mach punch, rocks, grass knot) Game 1: Infernape player disconnected. He had the 100% win if they dont misclick. What can hosts do? According to your logic, if we gonna go with the fair decision, we either offer the infernape player the win or enforce a rematch. The unfair decision would be giving the win to the opponent. Now let's take a look into Game 2: Infernape player sees they cannot win, because they cannot beat salamence at all. But then he knows we made the fair decision on game1, so all they have to do is to disconnect on purpose, claim they had the easy win, and get a free rematch or a free win in a game that was lost. And since we cannot really have different decisions on similar circumstances, being fair or not becomes irrelevant because that "fair" decision allows for super easy exploits, which are inherently not fair at all. Regarding what Nik said, and some other people. It might be unviable, but we might take a look into it cause it "partially" fix the issue, and hey, its better than nothing. However, none of the players sent their team to us prior to disconnect (Why would they?), and therefore we cannot really go for the "fair" decision here, without setting a precedent of that magnitude. Now, we can get more effort into doing something similar of what Nik proposed next season, if able, but in this season, same rules for everyone. Tldr; the decision might be unfair in your case, but you cannot guarantee it is always unfair in the same circumstances, and in the same system we currently possess. Thank you.
  2. This is just unrealistic af. We statistically cannot control at a legit extent stuff like rolls and every other stuff in a decent span of time.
  3. That's what we kinda have with the 3-turn rule. Is 3 turns too little? Maybe. Could it be increased? Maybe. But people were granted the option to complain before the event started and they didn't. Either way, no matter what number is chosen, it should be fixed and unchanged for the rest of the season once it starts. Edit: Let me elaborate, even the 3 turn is somewhat abusable, although on a low magnitude. The higher that number the more abusable such a system becomes. Let's assume I get frozen in the first X turns, or I get high rolled in the same X turns, or crit, or whatever. I can simply disconnect and replay the first X turns for an higher chance of success. And as some smart member pointed out. Pokemmo isn't the place to expect good sportsmanship at all. Tldr; The higher the X number is, the more abusable such system becomes.
  4. Out of curiosity (We are well aware that rules need polishing and are far from perfect). But how would you word your rulings regarding similar circumstances without setting exploitable precedents? PS: Anyone is welcomed to answer this.
  5. The following players have their contract renewed: From Taillows: JamesFaul: 150k -> 200k iMat: 250k -> 300k xMikasaAckerman: 200k -> 250k QuinnW: 100k -> 150k Pablobacas: 650k -> 700k
  6. Hydro Pump aggron. Gamefreak really knows what they are doing.
  7. Hello all and welcome to Week 5, the week before midseason mistakes (HYPE!) #MidseasonHype - #NoSalaryForFrags - #NoRematch - #NoSalaryForUmbralo. - #HydraStillOU - #Batties - #BadPunsForever - #CursedMkns - #BlazikenedVillains - #NoWaterlooYet - #SalaryChanges - #LateWeekThread - #Lazychima - #MienfooStillLC - #1hitpointShedinjas - #Scarfed Rotoms If you have any further questions ask your manager or check: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jrFThqqVDoe_QRs3vzPJxfFzNg4n7EwlV1fVEk0Kkis/edit. Regular Season Round Robin: https://challonge.com/pt/psl13 League Statistics: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oRYdu7wUT5G1aK7yblDmHbSuq5MBxdycs5BSG-TC2oI/edit#gid=0 The Trashtalking Taillows (4)vs (4) Nincadas with Attitude OU1: Endiii vs Chuckunso OU2: Pablobacas vs OverToasted UU: xMikasaAckerman vs Umbramol NU: iMat vs Zymogen Dubs: iJulianFNT vs DocPBC LC: Azphiel vs Elcoolio M-Dubs: JamesFaul vs GasaiYunosan M-Dubs: iKillua vs Aerun The Ruthless Rotoms (6) vs (2) Vermilion Villains OU1: AwaXGoku vs Kiwikidd OU2: Darker vs Zhiko UU: Stelian vs Busso NU: Kanicula vs Aurum Dubs: AkaruKokuyo vs Rendi LC: Xondex vs Baneadito M-NU: Mkns vs Mendez M-Dubs: InuyashaL vs Lkrenz Devil Bats (5) vs (3) Sailor Lunatones OU1: CristhianArce vs DoubleJ OU2: ZacMorales vs Senjutsuka UU: Urquidi vs Pirlo NU: JasonSparrowX vs SweeTforU Dubs: DarkQuiler vs aldahirramirez LC: KiiritoX vs Inxss M-UU: tMoi vs Ninamik M-NU: Frags vs kaarnaa Just Blaziken It (5)vs (3) Empoleon Bonapartists OU1: Lunarck vs Getovaherez OU2: Haazuu vs MadaraSixSix UU: Mlhawk vs YeyoXD NU: Kriliin vs Cristi Dubs: Zigh vs Superman LC: TheDH vs WarwitoX M-NU: Tawla vs Mamawally M-OU: Zokuru vs Schuchty NOTE: Arena Trap is banned from LC. Matches can be played from Wednesday October 21st 00:01 GMT+1 until Tuesday October 27th 23h59 GMT +1 Note 2: Contract renewals can be done until the end of this week.
  8. Title: How conk invalidates pure offense. Posts (argumentating a ban): - Ban guts cause burns (that spammed status in HO). - Sheer force orb Conk does almost same damage as guts. - B-but guts leftovers is op vs cofagrigus (Another common used mon in HO). *flees*
  9. It's ok. I could also have explained it better, my bad.
  10. I don't think Quinn is understanding the meaning of coaching. Coaching is, by definition, and as pointed out, any call that helps the player's decision making, and believe it or not, itemrevealing, setrevealing or naturerevealing all fall within that category, and aren't allowed, no matter in where they are revealed. With this in mind, pming the extra info instead of posting it publicly is even worse, and if anyone decides to do so, they are putting themselves and the respective player at risk with appropriate punishments. Now, ofc, it is incredibly hard to confirm coaching, but please keep in mind that, if we happen to find out, it won't be pretty. To answer @redbluegreen, I believe there are some levels of info reveal. And although rules are indeed quite vague and those levels are subjective, we probably wouldnt punish any call in normal chat stating: "Grass Knot infernape ez haha" because thats common and, as you said, the player should play assuming those kind of common variables in mind. However, that was not what happened. Revealing with confidence a nature that is not the most common can affect the outcome of the match and is not to be "assumed" beforehand. Either way, won't get into this convo again because I'd just be repeating myself. Thank you all. *flees*
  11. not quite. Calling out a nature is sometimes equivalent to telling the guy what he should do with the added information. Thats the deffinition of coaching. I apologize if its not clear crystal in rules, but feels like common knowledge, ty.
  12. So, because transparency is key, let me share hosts approach regarding this incident: - Given the revealed information, Crist didnt have a 100% guaranteed win, if they misplayed. (Hidden information is irrelevant cause there is no way to confirm) - Enforcing a rematch goes against our rules, unless in the specified instances. - Giving the win to Cristhian sets a not so hard to abuse precedent for the future (Example: Assuming some noob gets a 100% win with grass knot infernape that is not revealed in end game. They dont have grass knot so they can DC, claiming the win - Granted its not common to happen, but it can and it can be abused) - Therefore, and no matter how shitty the decision might sound in this specific situation, we decided to give the wins to Nincadas. Thank you all.
  13. Devil Baties vs The Trashtalking Tiellows?
  14. I hereby sign that Bats will win this week. Furthermore, any behavior that goes against this outcome won't be tolerated and will be severely punished. Wish you all a good day.
  15. So, for starters: Cradily: - Nature: Careful/Sassy: -Item: Leftovers - Moveset: Choose what you like between: Giga drain, rock slide, earthquake, recover, stealth rocks, toxic, etc. Druddigon: - Nature: Impish (Could be adamant but you lacking a phyiscal wall) - Item: leftovers /Rocky helmet -Moveset: Choose what you like between: stealth rock, dragon tail, glare, toxic, eartquake, fire punch (Dtail + stealth rocks are essential tho) Empoleon: - Nature: (Modest/Timid/Or any mixed nature) - Item: Life Orb, Choice specs or expert belt (depending on set) - Moveset: Surf/Hydro Pump ; Ice beam; Grass knot; Earthquake / Aqua jet if mixed; Agility if you want a late game cleaner Arcanine: - Nature: Jolly - Item: Choice band probably the best one (Orb is good too) - Moveset: Exspeed; Flare blitz; Close Comat; Wild Charge Alakazam: Good question. Go try around I guess. Nature is timid tho. Heracross. Nature: Jolly /Adamant (If scarf) Item: Flame orb or choice scarf Moveset: SD(NON-scarf) ; Megahorn; Facade; Close Combat; Night slash ; Stone edge(For Scarf). Choose 4 of them depending what you prefer. Have fun.
  16. So, starting from right to left. First pokemon is Bewear, whose 1st letter is B, which is different than a J. Second mon is Mimikyu, whose 1st letter is a M and not an O. Third Pokemon is Pikachu, which leads with a P that differs of an H. Then we have Drifloon with a D that is clearly not a T. Finally, we have Litten. Its first letter is an L and not an O. Tldr; Johto incoming.
  17. I'll hire you for signing up puns next season.
  18. 1- That -2 special attack comes at the cost of a dead mon. 2- Also, any attempt to nasty plot or swords dance against - 2 hydra results on a super crippled mon nevertheless. 3- Finally, the few mons that can take a draco meteor just die for superpower. Edit: To further explain my point. Dragonite is able to accomplish that focus energy draco meteor + superpower set. Does this mean Dragonite is broken? Does focus energy make dragonite broken? The answer is no. Dragonite with that same set you claim to be problematic on hydreigon is fine, which means the issue isnt the set or focus energy but Hydreigon as a whole.
  19. Is it possible to change the in-game text for this move? Cause right now it says : "If used in succession, its chance of failing rises", and its misleading. Ty.
  20. Hello all and welcome to Week 3 (HYPE!) #7ManagersStillFightingFor2nd - #NoSalaryForFrags - #BadForums - #XXLStarterPackDefects - #HydraStillOU - #2LossesRightOffTheBat - #BadPunsForever - #50kGems - #2ndRoundForCoolio - #EmpoleonBonaparties - #MknsForPresident - #SailorMoonsFaceTheirVillains - #LongHashtagsOp Rules for Scheduling: If you have any further questions ask your manager or check: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jrFThqqVDoe_QRs3vzPJxfFzNg4n7EwlV1fVEk0Kkis/edit. Regular Season Round Robin: https://challonge.com/pt/psl13 The Trashtalking Taillows (4)vs (4) Just Blaziken It OU1: Bluebreath vs Zokuru OU2: iMat vs Lunarck UU: QuinnW vs Mlhawk NU: JamesFaul vs Tawla Dubs: iJulianFNT vs Zigh LC: PoseidonWrath vs TheDH M-UU: xMikasaAckerman vs Icekob M-NU: Pablobacas vs Kriliin The Ruthless Rotoms (5) vs (3) Nincadas with Attitude OU1: JorgeFirebolt vs Chuckunso OU2: Darker vs DylanWoodz UU: Mkns vs Umbramol NU: Kanicula vs Zymogen Dubs: AkaruKokuyo vs EYL LC: Stelian vs Elcoolio M-LC: Xondex vs GasaiYunoSan M-Dubs: InuyashaL vs DocPBC Vermilion Villains (6) vs (2) Sailor Lunatones OU1: Lkrenz vs DoubleJ OU2: Kiwikidd vs Senjutsuka UU: Zhiko vs TohnR NU: Sejuani vs Cogeid Dubs: Rendi vs Artemiseta LC: Baneadito vs Inxss M-OU: Yosoyarca vs SweeTforU M-UU: Busso vs Pirlo Devil Bats (3) vs (5) Empoleon Bonapartists OU1: CristhianArce vs Schuchty OU2: ZeknShooter vs Brianattackpro UU: tmoi vs MadaraSixSix NU: MexiDany vs Cristi Dubs: Santii vs Superman LC: Urquidi vs YeyoXD M-Dubs: KokenoCastro vs badbaarsito M-OU: Frags vs Getovaherez NOTE: Arena Trap is banned from LC. NOTE2: Matches can be played from Wednesday October 7th 1am GMT until Tuesday October 13th 23h59 GMT NOTE3: Please announce your matches here, in forums, at least 10 minutes prior to the battle, otherwise we can enforce rematches.
  21. I apologize you sir. I understand people might find hydreigon ban arguable, but to say conk might be an issue while hydreigon is not is... well, no words rly, sorry. Edit: I see now thank you.
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