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Torterra will be perfectly fine in NU.
Jolly SS reaches 236 [+2]
Ada SS reaches 216 [+2]
Walls/Tanks
Spoiler+2 252 Atk Torterra Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Druddigon: 117-138 (63.5 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 Atk Torterra Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Leafeon: 61-72 (35.4 - 41.8%) -- 87.2% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 Atk Torterra Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Tangrowth: 63-75 (30.5 - 36.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ Atk Torterra Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Golbat: 134-158 (73.6 - 86.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Torterra Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Escavalier: 117-138 (66.1 - 77.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 Atk Torterra Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Escavalier: 145-172 (81.9 - 97.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 Atk Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Bronzor: 68-81 (41.4 - 49.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Important to note that Stone Edge might be better than Smack down just for the more damage output.
252 Atk Primeape Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Torterra: 144-172 (84.7 - 101.1%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
0 Atk Escavalier Megahorn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Torterra: 168-200 (98.8 - 117.6%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
0 Atk Golbat Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Torterra: 110-132 (64.7 - 77.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Torterra: 175-207 (102.9 - 121.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO [Consider this Ditto]
0 SpA Tangrowth Hidden Power Fire vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Torterra: 56-68 (32.9 - 40%) -- 100% chance to 3HKO
252 Atk Technician Scyther Wing Attack vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Torterra: 134-158 (78.8 - 92.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Typhlosion Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Torterra: 156-186 (91.7 - 109.4%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Alakazam Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Torterra: 91-108 (53.5 - 63.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Electivire Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Torterra: 160-192 (94.1 - 112.9%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Piloswine Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Torterra: 124-148 (72.9 - 87%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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1 hour ago, caioxlive13 said:
He was on untiered too, right? It can be used a lot now, since tier lost it's main fight-type. If will be good it's still a doubt.
Thank god at least one quickban vote passed. If not, TC could suspect and possibly ban only one of them, while the other we would have to wait until second week of november to see an action(Policy states only one suspect at a time and another can't be started for a month if the suspect ends with the mon suspected being banned).
Hariyama is considered NU.. and ppl won't play Milotic flame orb as much. Thats if they want to take burn dmg and rocks dmg every time they switch in.
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4 hours ago, caioxlive13 said:
Exactly. That s*** is bulk as f***, what could potentially switch it on there? Most part of NU mons i believe that can't.
He has 202 HP, 144 Def which is further boosted by Marvel Scale. Most physical mons can't do anything to kill it.
Even eelektross with a Wild Charge has 50% chance to not 2HKO.
252+ Atk Eelektross Wild Charge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Marvel Scale Milotic: 86-104 (42.5 - 51.4%) -- 53.5% chance to 2HKO after burn damage
Ok, this is tank. What about tricking some choice item on them to stop it? Well, it barely does anything, because Milotic holds Flame Orb, and depending on who trick is very risky.
Literally the only thing that can dream on doing a ensured 2HKO is Luxray ( 252+ Atk Guts Luxray Wild Charge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Marvel Scale Milotic: 134-158 (66.3 - 78.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage ), and he isn't that good even on Untiered, also on NU steelix just shutdowns it, he can't do a s*** about it.I think milotics could even go calm since most physical attackers fears scald burn anyways, and flame orb is already boosting their Def ad eternum.
1) You are overhyping Milotic. Yes its an amazing tank but its not going to be game breaking like you are describing it.
2) Why are you calcing WIld Charge Eelektross when its main set is Spatk variant?
252+ SpA Eelektross Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Milotic: 120-144 (59.4 - 71.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
4 SpA Milotic Scald vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Gear Eelektross: 37-45 (19.2 - 23.4%) -- possible 5HKO
3) Stop
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2 hours ago, TohnR said:
The thing is mixed Toise with Shell EQ Surf has to pick between HP Electric for Mantine and other waters (Milo, Slowking, Vapo) or Ice Beam for dragons and grass (Drudd, Altaria, Sceptile, Lilli ...)
Seems like a big 4MSS to have. Doesn't seem free against balanced/defensive teams, the big question being how do you revenge it, but the issue was more or less the same in UU tbh and NU has a few decent priority users as well
Fax I should have been more clear relating to that Blastoise has to choose what to cover with his last two move slots after main stab Surf so I think we will have a good chance of dealing with this rather than the other two that may be dropped.
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Did this last night just watching the usage but here are my thoughts right now of what could happen:
You can definitely test Medicham to an extent. At the end of the day, its going to rely on predicts and to me it looks like we got our new Blaziken except we won't see mixed ones. tho I would opt for banning Medi and letting Veonomoth drop.
Venomoth: My instant reaction was that it might get banned but that may not be the case so just wanted to show some calcs if you were curious.
Spoiler+1 252+ SpA Venomoth Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Milotic: 82-97 (40.5 - 48%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ SpA Venomoth Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Milotic: 61-73 (30.1 - 36.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
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+1 252+ SpA Tinted Lens Venomoth Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Altaria: 68-82 (37.3 - 45%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ SpA Venomoth Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Altaria: 69-82 (37.9 - 45%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ SpA Tinted Lens Venomoth Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Altaria: 96-114 (52.7 - 62.6%) -- 98.4% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
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+1 252+ SpA Venomoth Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gigalith in Sand: 55-66 (28.6 - 34.3%) -- 98.1% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ SpA Venomoth Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gigalith in Sand: 62-74 (32.2 - 38.5%) -- 2% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
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+1 252+ SpA Tinted Lens Venomoth Bug Buzz vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Mantine: 74-88 (38.7 - 46%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ SpA Venomoth Sludge Bomb vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Mantine: 75-88 (39.2 - 46%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ SpA Venomoth Sludge Bomb vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Mantine: 57-67 (29.8 - 35%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ SpA Tinted Lens Venomoth Bug Buzz vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Mantine: 56-66 (29.3 - 34.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
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We all know there will be different variants of everything including bold perhaps but wanted to display full dmg onto walls. I mostly showed mons that are capable of hazing it and considering if another mon is slept in this scenario.
We do have mons that can't fall asleep to Sleep Powder
Vital Spirit/Insomnia/Other Revenge Killers: Showed some users that can't fall asleep and then some AV mons
252 Atk Primeape Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Venomoth: 148-176 (102 - 121.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO(+1 252+ SpA Tinted Lens Venomoth Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Primeape: 130-154 (92.8 - 110%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO)
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252+ Atk Honchkrow Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Venomoth: 330-390 (227.5 - 268.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(+1 252 SpA Venomoth Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Gear Honchkrow: 102-120 (49.2 - 57.9%) -- 96.5% chance to 2HKO)
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252 SpA Magmortar Fire Blast vs. +1 0 HP / 0 SpD Venomoth: 152-182 (104.8 - 125.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(+1 252 SpA Tinted Lens Venomoth Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Magmortar: 94-112 (62.6 - 74.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO SludgeB does the same)
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252 Atk Electivire Fire Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Venomoth: 124-148 (85.5 - 102%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
(+1 252+ SpA Venomoth Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Electivire: 112-133 (74.6 - 88.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO)
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252+ Atk Sheer Force Druddigon Fire Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Venomoth: 174-206 (120 - 142%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(+1 252+ SpA Venomoth Bug Buzz vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Assault Gear Druddigon: 73-87 (40.1 - 47.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO)
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I think if they allow Venomoth we might see more abuse of Assault vest into things like Muk or Honchkrow, Druddigon. I want it banned and I know this ain't the final usage movements but we will see.
Milotic: is finally going to get some love. Nice mon honestly. It can range from being a massive tank and can go offensive if you want to abuse Competitive.
Blastoise: 100% a test. Again we have to wait and see what will be the standard set and I'm going to assume it will have to be some mixed shit with EQ for Lanturn. but def worth testing.
ED: Blastoise has to choose what to cover with his last two move slots after main stab Surf so I think we will have a good chance of dealing with this rather than the other two that may be dropped.
EX for Mixed: SS, EQ, Surf, HP Electric [You hit Lanturn, Qwilfish, Quagsire, Mantine but miss out on hitting Altaria, Druddigon, Grass types like Sceptile with Ice Beam]
Ex 2 for Modest - SS, Surf, Ice Beam, HP Grass [You are able to hit Grass types, Dragons, Waters eg: Quag/Slowking but miss out on doing more dmg to Lanturn/Qwilfish/Mantine]
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We finished but at what cost??? 😞
I don't think I will update the Pickup items. I did finish adding in the post game items you can get with all the HMs and Sage quests.
P.S: I totally forgot about this.
P.S 2: Added the missing items you will not find. Finished adding the wild pokemons you can find. Did also update the starter locations.
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Pictures are now updated with the sprites. Quick little guide for some items and cool side quest.
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Images got corrupted but I will update once I can get them again. 😕
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Just a quick guide on getting items from trainers that only appear depending on the day, otherwise known as the Weekday Siblings.
Items are obtained only once.
Monday, Monica Route. 40
Tuesday, Tuscany Route. 29
Wednesday, Wesley Lake of Rage
Thursday, Arthur Route. 36
Friday, Frieda Route. 32
Saturday, Santos Blackthorn City
Sunday, Sunny Route. 37Fun Fact: Arthur is the only sibling whose first letter of their English name does not match the first letter of their day of the week. Instead, the second syllable of his name, thur, matches the first of his day, Thursday.
Location of trainers' home where they have a book with notes of their places.
[Route 26]
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Monica:
Fly to Olivine City and head West towards Route 40. Just South from the entrance of Battle Frontier.
Monica will be here on Monday [IN GAME TIME] and hand you Sharp Beak.
Tuscany:
Fly to Cherrygrove City and head East towards Route 29.
Tuscany will be here on Tuesday [IN GAME TIME] and give you TwistedSpoon.
Wesley:
Fly to Mahogany Town and head towards the Lake of Rage. You want to stay on the left side area after entering Route 43 and heads Northwest.
Wesley will be here on Wednesday [IN GAME TIME] and hand you Black Belt.
Given this is the hardest one and you kinda get lost, small little tutorial below:
HM01 Cut is not needed; however, there are other items here you can grab so make sure to have the HM.
Arthur:
Fly to Violet City and head West. Near the guy that gives Rock Smash.
Arthur will be here on Thursday [IN GAME TIME] and give you Hard Stone.
Frieda:
Fly to Azalea Town and head East towards the Cave. Go through it and after exiting that Cave, head North until you see this PC. She is hiding behind it.
Fly to Violet City and head West towards Route 32 and then South until you reach this spot.
She will be here on Friday [IN GAME TIME] and hand you a Poison Barb.
Santos:
Fly to Blackthorn City. From the Gym (North from PC), Santos will be South east from there.
Santos will hand you a Soft Sand on Saturday (IN GAME TIME).
Sunny:
Fly to Ecruteak City. Head South towards Route 37 and you will see Sunny in between three Apicorn trees.
Sunny will be here on Sunday [IN GAME TIME] and will give you the item, Magnet.
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There you have it the Weekday Siblings!
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Moving up Kingler when it has like 2 moves it gets boosted. Haha
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Patience lil bro
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Did you know there are 118 ridges on the side of a dime?
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5 hours ago, SweeTforU said:
I get it. You don't want all the officials to have a shiny prize, it's questionable but understandable. The least a player that won an official for the first time expects is to atleast get a mon that can help him in that tier. But this????? this is the worst prize i've ever seen for any official in my life and i been around for a while... and i don't even play dubs!!
I honestly just wanna know your thought process when deciding prizes like this one fr...
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[NU] PvP Sample Sets Compendium
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Posted · Edited by xStarr
I am actually working on that. Up to Lumi or TC if they make a post.
ED: A list of viable mons in UT. Don't think they will add future tiers like RU.