Albeast33

^ Yay!!!!!! My thread got linked :D:D:D Anyways, if the purpose of this is to scale down levels for battle frontier, we can save a lot of time and effort by simply scaling levels down to 50, rather than having to create new items and such. All the info is in the thread, and most people agree with me, we just need to catch the eye of the devs.

I think it can as a vanity item, just read my above post.

Coming up in the next update maybe? :P Being completely honest though, there's not much else that needs to be updated. Maybe contest halls and such, but not much else takes priorities over legendaries at this point. And maybe a scale down to level 50 in the BF as well? :D:D:D

Scale down to lv 50 at Battle Frontier in lv 50 mode.

Agreed. Besides, doesn't is so happen that trainers in the Battle Frontier start using legendaries if your streak is long enough? I say a Tyrannitar or a Dragonite would be fair game against them. Edit: Could we get a dev's opinion about this if it's possible? :D

That's arguing the competitive system entirely, which is something else that is not discussed on this thread. So are there any specific arguments as to why shouldn't scale down? The way I see it, everyone agrees, and we should simply be pushing the devs to hopefully let this happen soon, and not delay it any longer.

And I agree with that, but its not like we're taking away that purpose. This would be encouraging coherence between PvP and PvE, while opening the Battle Frontier to more people. Any argument that can be made against the scaling of levels is that its the essential purpose of lv 100 Battle Frontier modes. HOWEVER we are not taking this purpose away, but as I said before, simply expanding, and making the Battle Frontier more available with the Pokémon most people already have, but are too high a level. This is a question of when, not if.

Because the 'same crap' is shared by the majority of players. There is no other situation in the game where you have to worry about over-leveling. Why does this have to impede progress? Once again, by scaling down to level 50, we are encouraging competitive practice at the battle frontier. I have no idea why you would think this is a bad idea if it means more people become attracted to competitive battling, which is currently the end game. In previous threads, people agreed that scaling down to level 50 should have happened. The purpose of this thread is so that we can push for it to happen soon, preferably the next update when it may come in a month or two.

Even so, you want more people to playing the game. By scaling levels down to 50, you are encouraging a wider variety of people to play the game. Plus, as I said earlier, this could be used as comp practice as well.

In that case, after reading the above, I'd like to push for it to happen sooner than later. I wouldn't imagine it would take up too much time since the PvP system already works this way. All that needs to be there is the player support (purpose of the thread), and a definitive response from the Devs. Show your support everyone :D

Hey everyone, Just a quick suggestion that will enable more people to play the battle frontier in whatever mode they wish. Unlike PvP battling, the battle frontier does not scale down the levels of our Pokémon to lv 50 when we wish to enter that mode, which is a massive determent to any Pokémon in the 50-60 range because they are too strong for lv 50, and too weak for open (when really its lv 100). Furthermore, it allows Pokémon like TTar, Salemance, and others that evolve past lv 50 to be used in Battle Frontier. Not to mention, this allows the battle frontier to be used as more realistic comp practice as well. Finally, by scaling the levels down, it allows more people to play the Battle Frontier how they wish, encouraging more players to try it, which is the aim of a game anyways. What do you guys think?

Let me rephrase myself then. Without 4th gen Pokémon or moves, the tiers will never be truly balanced in PokeMMO.

So we can start the process again properly without being caught in chain bans. Eventually, everything is going to get banned because it will have no counters once its counter has been banned. A long time down the road, UU will essentially become OU, and Ubers will be OU. The only reason Uber is gaining traction as an actual tier is because of the OU chain bans moving everything up. That is where the root of the issue lies.

We've been on this topic for months now. Scizor is going to have a final decision made on it before you guys reach a decision. My input on the topic is that we need to reset the meta completely. One ban is always going to lead to another because by taking away one thing, you're taking away something's weakness, possible making it too much to handle now. We don't want to see a vigorous cycle. As a beginner comp breeder, I have had to breed 9 Pokémon, yet I don't have a proper competitive team yet because of how much the tiers are constantly changing. I'm for whatever route gives us stability.

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