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I don't know if the devs would ever consider it but its not that simple because the player who designed the vanity item would have to upload it to the server and all other players have to update for them to be able to see those items on the one who are using them. that's what i think at least

It looks pretty neat now :) good job. you still have to fix that "Blisseys have a 5% encounter" though, and it would be very good to mention some common examples of E4 sweepers like Starmie which will make it easier to go through them. Best wishes & keep up the good work :)

Again with the easy, selfish thing .. I have had it. enjoy your hard-worked tedious grind breeding .. along with a couple of aspirins and some nice long movie to watch.

I would really love to play on the PTS rather than this update but still love the old breeding system more than the PTS :) breeding itself was more fun to me than 100x times just spawning pokes .. but spawning allow us to test movesets/pokes more faster and better than having to breed anything. The comps as they mean "a good comp is about 25+ all stats and 31 speed" has grown in its value since nobody before the update wanted this while he could just get 3x31 and average stats with less than the comp now "mainly 100-200k" but overall the prices went up and anything beyond 500k we have to spend weeks to sell it "namely the 4x to 6x" so what went up was : 1- wild catches alot from 0 value to maybe 300k in lucky cases like 3x31 or 1x31 with average appove 25+ 2- average to good comp from 0-30k to 200-300k 3- 1x from 0 to ~20k 4- 2x from 20k to ~150k 5- 3x from ~80-100k to 200-350k all beyond that is like hell to sell if it got ever sold out. as for ppl breeding for them selves rather than buying its because the prices went skyrocketing and to have multi pokes you have to have a fortune.

I think maybe me and you live in a 2 totally different worlds to be honest :) i don't see any problem solved at least not from my point of view for the many reasons i stated in 'Opinions on new breeding' thread regarding the current state of the economy but you could add to that the new system made a whole lot more problem than it solved "too much grinding, TM needs fresh source, barrier to the comp scene, more of solo-play rather than MMO play, and so on" and many other things, yes you did manage to find a solution to some like TMs in the market for the next update .. but still it made a lot more problems than what it should be solving but didn't

So it turns out to show the real reason behind all this XD would have appreciated if you said so from the begging. although you had it all wrong because like WOW and other staging games the maps serve its purpose for each stage as the story line goes and only specific maps continue to be useful at the end-game for dungeons & raids (which have been the same here for ev training and shiny hunt) but at least now i know why you were so fixated about brining CatchMMO again. Thanks for clearing that up Thanks for correcting me :) will try to remember next time

Why do you guys care so much about wild encountering ? why is it have to be wild not bred ? wasn't it enough for ev training and shiny hunting ? anyway again you call it madness i call it fun .. you call this bullshit tedious grinding fun i call it absolutely madness .. so again let's just wait and see

Its not like breeding or cloning since they will be a wild catch also the same as the original ones .. the idea is just to hinder the unwanted species from encounters and buff those species a little more than they are in their area. but the idea for sure will have a huge effect on species rarity.

Maybe because stating why it is better in most cases means you favour it over the old one then goes on some threads stating that maybe devs should reconsider bringing the old one back. so going back and forth made me wonder which group are you going with XD then you made this obviously "against" thread

I like the idea and can use it in another way like the fishing contests in the anime .. the player catch a cretin amount/specific nature/species and hand it to NPC and get a cretin prize/item as a PVE automated event or something like that. +1 for your idea though

LOL .. i can't tell if you are joking or not XD if not then this is one of your biggest "against" new breeding system you have ever made XD so my guessing is that the next one will be the complete opposite to this but for the time being i completely agree with this XD

I could count those ppl who have "common sense" to you now and those who have "non-sense" will still out-vote you :P

That goes against the laziness part as you mention we had to grind "eggs" to get better ones but on the contrary to the current system we always start from where we left .. not all the way up again like it is now. either way as i stated before all this talk now is meaningless cuz i will never have fun in the current system and you will never be convinced about the old system .. even more DS made it clear they have no intention of bringing it back .. so we all just have to wait and see what's coming and how would it turn out to be.

Give him a break, so he made some mistakes so what ? a constructive feedback would be much better than this wall of criticizing. he made it clear its his first try in writing a guide so show some appreciation or don't bother commenting at all. anyway its a good start specially for newbies who doesn't know about lucky egg, how exp. share works and how to make a good use of a high levelled pokemon in-order to level a lower level one. but as OldKeith said the percentage is a little off and you should make a use of the daycares since they can hold up to 3 pokes in kanto and 2 pokes in hoenn and they all get 60% each of the experience you gain through battles (each daycare are only active while you are in its region only) keep it up :)

nobody was getting 5x and 6x everyday since there where 3 random ivs with -8,+3 so it wasn't that common as you guys say. and i never said i was a good breeder i have never even had my own 5x31 .. had many 2x & 3x though since my breeders was only 4x31-1x30. if you still curious though i could post it later if you want.

Wrong .. making a profit out of this system doesn't make you an economy saver. i have bred using that system more than enough to be sure its not about profit .. its about fun and tedious. under the old system i have made 3mil breeding, selling tms, items and almost everything. i used half of them in the new system breeding and didn't make a single yen out of it cuz i bred them for myself. and made 7 mil selling wild catch's "which was the only thing that have improved" since the update. so acttually its alot easier to make money now than before even if it isn't from breeding. its just harder to make from breeders now and thats proves i'm not after the profit but the fun. i'm sorry .. you must have been super lucky to get those or maybe i have been super unlucky cuz i had begging for 4x31 eevess for about 400k but still no one sold to me. and the last 6x31 smeargle i saw selling was for 1.5 mil and quagsier was about 2mil .. so maybe i have been in another game or something. P.S : didn't know the forum membership could tell the in-game membership or something .. do i have to tell you my in-game name to know that i joined dec-2013 (sorry thought it was 2012 XD ) ?

correction since you obiously didn't have anything to do with the market back then .. 4x was worth about 600k and 5x was worth about 800-1mil and finally 6x was worth 1.2mil+ back then and it wasnt droping since i almost daily for the 2-3 months pre-update was buying 3x for 100-200k trying to get my own 4-5x and since you mentioned it again maybe perfect comps now worth 1mil+ but it takes days or weeks to sell and even the same to make so it is a lost cause to me and for many others .. go look on the trade chat if you want to confirm .. you'll see the same comps selling all day long with no buyers or whatsoever I think you are wrong again .. i think you are missing the point .. we are not in real life to make a system that has an overprotected economy .. any good economy will do just fine .. when we are in game mmo or not we are looking for fun, relax and enjoyment. not stress,headache, tedious process. i said many many times that MMOs maybe implementing grinding but in much better ways that makes it enjoyable and fun to do like dungeon , raids, team pvps and so on .. never ever they made a heavy solo grinding ever. let's just face it .. devs needed a distraction "an end-game content" so they made catchMMO back until they figure out what to do as an end-game content .. just a stupid time-consuming mechanism thats all. EDIT : I don't get it why all ppl whose defending the new system calls the ones wanting the older system to return being lazy ? we have made posts more than enough to show enough concern & activity towards the concept itself rather than just quitting or change activity or whatever ppl do this days if they found something too hard for them to work with. just sit for a sec and think about it before you call us lazy or selfish.

as if the new breeding made the economy a solid-proof or something .. its even worse than ever as it is if i might say .. again lets all talk about it again after the "exact ivs, trade hub, hidden power control .. etc" and see if it turns out to work better than it was before. EDIT : told you before .. your way of having fun is not necessarily mine so don't accuse anybody of being lazy just because they can't have fun in this bullshit grinding. also if you are so tired from those threads then simply don't read, replay or even care about it .. its that simple

Agree to disagree then :) your fun isn't fun to me and my fun isn't fun to you .. if we made another poll today it would still outclass the new breeding even though most of the old breeding supporters has either quit or left the game for the time being but still many of the current players would rather the old one or at least having their parent kept alive .. but once again lets just wait and hope for the best :)

5k braces doesn't take away the poke-grinding nor making it fun to mix movesets and natures. but will definitely make the game playable again.

I have to disagree with all what you've said here .. it is much worth than what i have thought first XD even after 8 months of that ... update ... and calling that the poll is outdated and easy to manipulate is a wrong assumption since it can be manipulated either way and given that it has more than double the votes against the new mech. even the ones defending the new mech admitted its validity in voting but called the majority "short sighted" and don't know whats good for them "ask DS if you want to confirm XD" anyway i lost all hope for it to be back like it was once before "fun" and i decided to wait until it is a 1-2 years old experiment so we can call it beyond doubt as a failure experiment.

Nothing, they just thought the economy was getting broken back then .. they broke it even worse now.

You can use this guide, it should be what you are looking for. and in-game there is a tooltip on your pokemon's move that tells you whither it is a physical, special or status move but its only available if the pokemon knows the move ( not available in the pokedex )

would be even better :)

I actually like the idea .. will make a use out of my breeders other than sitting there in pc box and would make breeder again worthwhile.