gbwead

Wobbuffet without tickle would be healthy for our meta. It would also be very annoying for somme regen mons like Amoongus being forced to run Gastro Acid.

Finals Lo (0)vs SIA (0) OU: Dshadd vs Zokuru OU: NewNewDemon vs Azphiel UU: Shamelesss vs gbwead UU: ForFour vs TheDH NU: ChronoRike vs Smadagos NU: TeaDance vs MadaraSixSix Dubs: LoveSiNiLe vs Jgaw Dubs: UTvs Kamimiii UT: MullenYu vs Mkns 3rd Place NORE (0)vs NWO (0) OU: LeJovi vs Goldrayer OU: Flacusaurio vs ArthurLeyinG UU: CarolML vs SecretPlayerZ UU: YaserAL vs jeltyfino NU: Lachidrago vs JulioZm NU: IHasvik vs Olzignie Dubs: YJos vs BadbutG Dubs: Alaniz vs TiburoncinDs LC: Edstorm vs zVelociraptor

Welcome to the Teams Champions League III's Finals thread. Relevant links TCL III General Thread Discord Server TCL III Playoffs Bracket Player Sheets Please refer to the Little Cup Rules for LC. Join the Little Cup Club for further tiering information. Please refer to the In Game Pokedex for OU, UU, NU, UT and Doubles. Please refer to the Rules and Guidelines for Scheduling, Disconnections and Ghosting. Make sure you are aware of the rules for Substitutions and Activity decisions. Finals Lo (2)vs SIA (5) OU: Dshadd vs Zokuru OU: NewNewDemon vs Azphiel UU: Shamelesss vs gbwead UU: ForFour vs TheDH NU: ChronoRike vs Smadagos NU: TeaDance vs MadaraSixSix Dubs: LoveSiNiLe vs Jgaw Dubs: UT vs Kamimiii UT: MullenYu vs Mkns 3rd Place NORE (5)vs NWO (3) OU: LeJovi vs Goldrayer OU: Flacusaurio vs ArthurLeyinG UU: CarolML vs SecretPlayerZ UU: YaserAL vs jeltyfino NU: Lachidrago vs JulioZm NU: IHasvik vs Olzignie Dubs: YJos vs BadbutG Dubs: Alaniz vs TiburoncinDs LC: Edstorm vs zVelociraptor Deadline Sunday 28th @ 11:59 PM UTC

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Semi Finals NORE (0) vs SIA (0) OU: YaserAl vs Azphiel OU: LeJovi vs Zokuru UU: CarolML vs TheDH UU: Flacuaurio vs gbwead NU: IHasvik vs MadaraSixSix NU: Lachidrago vs Smadagos Dubs: EYL vs Kamimiii Dubs: YJos vs Jgaw UT: TItinn vs Mkns Lo (0) vs NWO (0) OU: NewNewDemon vs zVelociraptor OU: Dshadd vs dariobaco UU: Shameless vs BadbutG UU: ForFour vs AkumaLord NU: Chronorike vs XxVictor NU: HayaQL vs WarriorPast Dubs: Lovesinile vs TiburoncinDs Dubs: UT vs Eugnam LC: Queest vs Mapchs

Welcome to the Teams Champions League III's Semi Finals thread. Relevant links TCL III General Thread Discord Server TCL III Playoffs Bracket Player Sheets Please refer to the Little Cup Rules for LC. Join the Little Cup Club for further tiering information. Please refer to the In Game Pokedex for OU, UU, NU, UT and Doubles. Please refer to the Rules and Guidelines for Scheduling, Disconnections and Ghosting. Make sure you are aware of the rules for Substitutions and Activity decisions. Semi Finals Betting thread NORE (0) vs SIA (6) OU: YaserAl vs Azphiel OU: LeJovi vs Zokuru UU: CarolML vs TheDH UU: Flacuaurio vs gbwead NU: IHasvik vs MadaraSixSix NU: Lachidrago vs Smadagos Dubs: EYL vs Kamimiii Dubs: YJos vs Jgaw UT: TItinn vs Mkns Lo (7) vs NWO (1) OU: NewNewDemon vs zVelociraptor OU: Dshadd vs dariobaco UU: Shameless vs BadbutG UU: ForFour vs AkumaLord NU: Chronorike vs XxVictor NU: HayaQL vs WarriorPast Dubs: Lovesinile vs TiburoncinDs Dubs: UT vs Eugnam LC: Queest vs Mapchs Deadline Monday 22th @ 11:59 PM UTC

The time saved by using legendary lures cost so much that you would get the legendary birds quicker by just doing gym runs and buying the legendary off the GTL. Even if the Legendary Lures were costing 30k, it would still be more time/money efficient to use expert lures or doing gym runs.

I looked into the value of Legendary Lures and how they compare to Expert Lures when it comes to hunting Legendaries. Even if they dropped to 30k on the GTL, they would still not be worth using. The following table shows how inefficient Legendary Lures are currently: Time Saved & Money Spent by using Legendary vs Expert Lures Rate 1/1000 1/2000 1/3000 1/4000 1/5000 1/6000 1/7000 1/8000 Time Saved 42m 1h23m 2h05m 2h46m 3h28m 4h10m 4h51m 5h33m Money Spent $1,199,328 $2,401,206 $3,600,480 $4,799,808 $5,999,136 $7,198,464 $8,400,342 $9,599,670 Assuming - Legendary Lures cost 90k - 1 encounter per 8.5 steps for Legendary Lures and per 9 steps for Expert Lures - 5 encounters per minute - Legendary Lures increase encounter rate by 15% - Expert Lures increase encounter rate by 10% - Using an encounter rate enhancing ability (Swarm / Illuminate) The following table shows the average time spent to encounter a legendary: Average Time to Encounter a Legendary using Rate 1/1000 1/2000 1/3000 1/4000 1/5000 1/6000 1/7000 1/8000 Legendary Lures 1h37m 3h14m 4h51m 6h28m 8h25m 9h42m 11h19m 12h56m Expert Lures 2h19m 4h37m 6h56m 9h15m 11h33m 13h52m 16h10m 18h29m Source that Legendary Encounter Rate is between 1/1000 and 1/8000: Conclusion: Don't buy legendary lures, you will be disappointed.

very big head

I agree that they need to be cautious with flat currency rewards, but they could easily give away some consumables like charms, rare candies, etc. They could probably do something that has to do with Ability Patches since Red is only unlocked after completing the Dex.

Are you using the exact same 2 mons for all teams? Because that's the level of difficulty of Ho-Oh. I never said Red was difficult, just that Ho-Oh was easier.

The current reward for beating Red is really not impressive compared to other end game content like Ho-Oh. Red Requirement Completing the entire OT Pokedex (100+ hours) Difficulty Multiple potential teams Reward 165k Pokeyen (Amulet boosted) 7.5k BP Ho-Oh Requirement Completing the Johto Story Line (7 hours) Difficulty Same fight every time Reward 10 Rainbow Quill (5k on the GTL) 3 Legendary Lure (100k on the GTL) Ho-Oh is easier to fight than Red, Ho-Oh gets unlocked 14 times faster than Red and Ho-Oh gives twice the reward as Red. Bad game design.

Quarter Finals NORE (0) vs BR (0) OU: LeJovi vs Jhowteon OU: Yaser vs Elvessss UU: Flacu vs makarovmaster UU: CarolML vs Deadwind NU: Lachidrago vs Belegado NU: Hasvik vs fefeco Dubs: YJos vs Shentiger Dubs: EYL vs Sizaz LC: QuinnW vs Boyscap Oa (0) vs SIA (0) OU: boynextdior vs Schuchty OU: ZioMOJI vs Azphiel UU: XiaoH vs Mkns UU: VFoxdemonMax vs Eastsiideboy NU: UOR vs Smadagos NU: konishiwa vs Stelian Dubs: CocoNeko vs Jgaw Dubs: Incineroar vs Kamimiii LC: kokenoCastro vs TheDH Lo (0) vs Zero (0) OU: Chintsuru vs dangelMA OU: Dshadd vs DylanWoodz UU: Shamelesss vs KokoOP UU: ForFour vs PsykoO NU: KimiWaKuzu vs PokemonBR NU: TeeDance vs InuYashaL Dubs: Lovesinile vs Frlobo Dubs: UT vs ZAFIROBETHA LC: EEdays vs Isperea VOW (0) vs NWO (0) OU: HogniRagnar vs SecretPlayerZ OU: iloveyoubro vs DarioBaco UU: Justachamp vs BadbutG UU: Sebat vs AkumaLord NU: DrewQ vs xxVictor NU: Sargeste vs WarriorPast Dubs: NecasinTrouble vs TiburoncinDs Dubs: OrangeManiac vs ManzaG LC: Onraider vs Mapchs

Welcome to the Teams Champions League III's Quarter Finals thread. Relevant links TCL III General Thread Discord Server TCL III Playoffs Bracket Player Sheets Please refer to the Little Cup Rules for LC. Join the Little Cup Club for further tiering information. Please refer to the In Game Pokedex for OU, UU, NU, UT and Doubles. Please refer to the Rules and Guidelines for Scheduling, Disconnections and Ghosting. Make sure you are aware of the rules for Substitutions and Activity decisions. Quarter Finals Betting thread NORE (5) vs BR (2) OU: LeJovi vs Jhowteon OU: Yaser vs Elvessss UU: Flacu vs makarovmaster UU: CarolML vs Deadwind NU: Lachidrago vs Belegado NU: Hasvik vs fefeco Dubs: YJos vs Shentiger Dubs: Edstorm vs Sizaz LC: QuinnW vs Boyscap Oa (3) vs SIA (5) OU: boynextdior vs Schuchty OU: ZioMOJI vs Azphiel UU: XiaoH vs Mkns UU: VFoxdemonMax vs Eastsiideboy NU: UOR vs Smadagos NU: konishiwa vs Stelian Dubs: CocoNeko vs Jgaw Dubs: Incineroar vs Kamimiii LC: kokenoCastro vs TheDH Lo (7) vs Zero (2) OU: Chintsuru vs dangelMA OU: NewNewDemon vs DylanWoodz UU: Shamelesss vs KokoOP UU: MullenYu vs PsykoO NU: Chronorike vs PokemonBR NU: TeeDance vs InuYashaL Dubs: Lovesinile vs Frlobo Dubs: UT vs ZAFIROBETHA LC: EEdays vs Isperea VOW (2) vs NWO (5) OU: HogniRagnar vs SecretPlayerZ OU: iloveyoubro vs DarioBaco UU: Justachamp vs BadbutG UU: Sebat vs AkumaLord NU: DrewQ vs xxVictor NU: Sargeste vs WarriorPast Dubs: NecasinTrouble vs TiburoncinDs Dubs: OrangeManiac vs ManzaG LC: Onraider vs Mapchs Deadline Monday 15th @ 11:59 PM UTC

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P2 was already retested in UU following the pp nerf. As for weathers, P2 would imo be great at countering weathers since it is capable of tanking pretty much anything from weathers teams and hurts them back a lot in return. I think P2 would be a very annoying momentum killer for weathers teams. Physical Entei stands no chance vs P2. The only hope Entei and Raikou have is Sub+CM. I'm not sure that's enough to retest P2 but it's something. However, P2 would still have no offensive switch ins in the tier because I don't think sub+cm Raikou or Entei can afford switching into P2.

If Golbat was used in OU to stop Conkeldurr, Machamp doesn't stand a chance.

What are you guys talking about? We didn't get an Xmas event this year, so devs gave us all 20% shiny bonus to compensate.

Dugtrio is just hated. There is no reason for Dugtrio to be banned in UU, but not OU. It does the same thing in both tiers. TC should be consistent and ban it in both tiers or allow it in both tiers.

Shadow Tag should return to normal and Tickle should be removed from the Wobbuffet/Wynaut species. Wobbuffet was untiered without Tickle. It's also more authentic to the original games this way.

@Munya Shadow Tag should be on this list, right?

It's the opposite. They are not buffing knock off and baton pass.

Machamp should be removed from the BL2 list. It's still UU by usage, but if it ever falls to NU, it doesn't look broken at all. Machamp would certainly be strong in NU, but still manageable with stuff like Golbat and Slowbro around.

Where is the TC announcement that says otherwise?

The introduction of Sharpness was a dev decision. The Gallade ban was a TC decision. The change from a ban to a 1.3 nerf was a dev decision. The change from 1.3 to 1.4 was a dev decision. The change from 1.4 to 1.5 was a dev decision. The last 3 devs decisions have bypassed the Tier Council entirely. If the reasoning behind every Sharpness buff was that the nerfs were too hasty (litteraly what was said last time too), you're just blatantly saying that devs know better than TC when it comes to PvP. At least be honest and say: "devs want sharpness at 1.5, it has nothing to do with pvp, sorry, not sorry, it's not negociable". You don't have to even explain your reason, but please don't bullshit us. We're wasting our time arguing and discussing these pvp matters all for nothing because in the end it's all a big farce and nothing was ever up for discussion.