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use windows xp glalie is bad, marowak is borderline usable, charizard is too bad, scizor too and gengar is uber. so to sum up, assuming you want to ou, you have: marowak, venusaur, gyarados, weezing aerodactyl, heracross I'd keep heracross , aero, weezing and gyarados, they're all fine and should work ok together. If you want to save some time and start battling soon this could be an ok core, all you need to add is to add some coverage and a special wall. one of these would be mandatory imo: Chansey (really cheap to make, it only needs 3 ivs and bold nature), porygon 2 and gardevoir. They can stop both starmie and jolteon, which could easily kill the rest of your team otherwise. Then you'd have to look at this https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/53984-pokemmo-official-usage-statistics-and-tier-lists/ and see what would be a problem with what you currently have. Let's assume you picked chansey (porygon 2 is really expensive to make, while gardevoir is just relatively expensive) as your sp wall, so: Chansey, gyarados, weezing, heracross and aerodactyl. Now your team doesn't seem to have any particular problem against anything, but you lack something to take down slowbro, weezing and ph walls in particular. Especially skarmory, that could spam spikes pretty easily against your team, so you could use a sp sweeper or a mixed sweeper. Your best bets are: Starmie (expensive to make): pretty versatile with access to rapid spin, recover and a wide range of offensive moves. it can be either bulky with recover or the classic tbolt, surf, psychic, ice beam sweeper. ice beam can be replaced with rapid spin too. Jolteon (can be either cheap or expensive): eh, there's just so many sets to choose from. as long as it has tbolt it'll do fine. Wish pass is always nice, hp grass > ice atm, shadowball is good for gardevoir and sub swag is a pain no matter what. If you want to go cheap and be a massive uguu, use this set of mine: Tbolt, sub, twave and swagger. Gengar: lol you wish Charizard: the sunny beam set is what i recommend with your team. Sunny day, solar beam, fire blast (1hko on metagross and skarm) and what you see fit. Thunderpunch, even with modest/timid nature should 2hko gyarados, so it's good to have.Sub will save you from status moves and Hp rock/ancientpower are extremely useful against gyara and arcanine which would otherwise laugh at you. If you're worried about chansey you can always pick a ph move too, but you'd better have a mild nature for that, otherwise just pick modest over timid. Charizard is at base 100 speed, so the only advantage you get with a timid nature is speed ties with flygon and tauros and i'd personally switch against those anyway :rolleyes:. Modest zard under the sun can 2hko umbreon with fireblast, that's how strong it is. Edit: make sure you have 31 speed and sp att Blaziken: +att nature, 252 att and speed (iirc), thunderpunch (gyarados), earthquake(arcanine), superpower and overheat/blaze kick. Edit: Choice band, make sure you have that or blaze kick will be way too weak and equake won't do enough to arcanine. Even though you need to take down ph walls, blaziken should be able to do that even with this purely ph moveset. keep in mind that blaze kick is a 3hko to weezing no matter what, while overheat is a 2hko (taking the drop after the first turn into account ofc) and should deal more to skarm as well. I don't remember if you need any investment for skarm and metagross, but iirc you should be fine with that set. You can also use it with lefties or a berry if you pick overheat, but then arcanine would be a problem. Magneton: Traps skarmory and can beat both slowbro and weezing. Did i mention you can trap skarmory? There you go

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Not really, i mean you don't suddenly realize that blissey can somehow totally wall any sp after years of dealing with it. Indeed because of it's defensive stats, but it doesn't actually fit under that criteria, you can easily break it down with a ph sweeper. If we were to ban chansey too it would be solely for it's impact on the meta

If trapping is such a big issue the question comes just natural: wtf is dugtrio still doing in ou? Also ye, chansey is the same as blissey, except it can lose to fake tears jolt (and possibly become a setup bait for sub,wish,charge,tbolt?lol). For some reason i can't see it as too good not to use because of it's lack of offensive power though, but in the end is the same exact thing. As long as it doesn't reach an obscene usage rate i'd keep it

I wouldn't bother using a modest kingdra unless hp grass/elec. Jolt is ok, weezing could use a bit more sp att. Too bad explosion/self d got nerfed, but maybe it could still work to take down a dangerous sp sweeper. So Weezing: Wow, pain split, boom and tbolt. Btw what set did you have in mind for jolt?

Don't use sceptile, it's bad. Skarm and vapo (hopefully with wish) should work well together, while umbreon could be a decent mixed wall, but you'd better replace it with gardevoir/porygon2 or chansey now that gengar is gone. Consider that chansey is really cheap to make, she only needs 3 stats, hp, defense and sp def. Blaziken is a threat to any wall/tank so it can be immensely useful when your ph or sp sweeper is down. as long as blazi is alive you have a chance to avoid getting stalled to death. Then i'd pick heracross and jolteon to have a solid offensive core.

Of all the pokemon you could use for that, you choose the starter with arguably the best moveset

Come to think of it, gardevoir could stop cold (even without calm nature) every sp sweeper but gengar. I suppose pory can do that just fine too

252+ Atk Choice Band Blaziken Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Swampert: 235-277 (58.1 - 68.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery Pretty safe indeed, especially when it doesn't have insta healing. Also cursepert :rolleyes:

cbpert as your lead, i taught you well

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just 2 you lying liar

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Maybe you should rename that into "shiny value thread" because you won't get any answer if you ask for the value of a comp. Give it a try

Kinda ot, but don't get an aero with less than 31 speed, trust me. And at least 28 att, the rest won't matter that much.

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wtf can't pory learn flamethrower? showdown calc says it can

Anyway the best attitude to have in any game when you find something rare is to keep it until you know the market well enough to give it an exact price. Just remind newbz that shinies are the perfect example of this.

More than what? than blazi? I mean, that's really not a wallbreaker, but that reverse trapping on magneton seems nice (you meant magneton with hp fire in it's moveset, right?). Does it work with trio too if bold pory? Anyway, how is ursa doing atm?