Vaeldras

Crawdaunt Adamant: 28/31/29/x/29/31 EV's: 252ATK 252SPEED 6DEF Set: DRAGON DANCE/CRUNCH/WATERFALL/SUPERPOWER 600 maccheroni

No smiles, only pain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvdLJclxcDc

Could you please explain what tactic revolves around your opponent forgetting the hp status of your pokemon?

happiness go away! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxSTKXnw7wc

Worth mentioning the first guy's name means "i rape you/ i'm gonna rape you"

May your breeders be cheap and your shards forever expensive bruh

As long as anything happens. I see noone opposing a dugtrio ban, so maybe we should focus on that for now

Yeee, but we banned it to give sp hitters a chance

Test ban this thing already. Once we prove sp hitters are crap anyway maybe we can also bring back blissey

Wouldn't bother until we have milotic (lol), at that point we'll probably have feebas back in the wild

I used to everstone hunt while keeping track of the time. My average was no more than 8 minutes per stones, around 5 mins x each stone.

it wasn't squirtle it was me but it's okay cuz hacking is allowed also welcome

I think we all know what dugtrio can and can't trap by now. I carry garde over chansey just because of dugtrio (even though chansey can be adapted to beat dugtrio) and i watch myself from having more than 1 poke that dugtrio could possibly trap but even then i sometimes can't avoid a revenge kill. As robo said it was a whole different story with gengar around, but we came to the point where that thing is just too relevant. You can afford to have that around when the usage is at borderline nu levels, but as of now it's something you have to teambuild for. And it's not something you can be prepared for just by using pursuitdactyl or gardevoir, because at that point there's a good chance dugtrio already did it's job. Having a dugtrioproof team which is at the same time prepared to deal with status, spikes, cbanders and setup sweepers and any kind of team in general while retaining a decent offensive power is pretty difficult to say the least. When you have to deal with trappers risky plays are something you can't afford, especially in a defensive oriented meta where losing a single wall affects you so much; dugtrio doesn't only affect teambuilding but also the actual battles in a negative way (less variety when it comes to make decisions). When gengar's ban was still fresh and the usage was tolerable one could still overlook it's uncompetitiveness, but i think we came to the point where it needs to be stopped. Stall is already viable enough, trapping is pretty awful in general and with it's current usage we don't have any excuse left to keep it around. Plz ban

Never even considered looking for you in game. I should try

keep the nature and never let it go boy

not you

Ye but the guide has not been updated in a while, the op is rip. The battle frontier update added the currently best spot for sp def, which would be the battle frontier itself (tentacruel).

You're coming out with numbers that have no possibility of being true Check again, it's taking you longer than that

Cory in the house Taxi Driver PokeMMO Coca Cola when the fuck did you join pkèm mayne

Gift shop items are a different thing, imo there would only be pros to that. The idea of having sales is overall pretty good in an mmo

I'm afraid you will have to stick with unhealtiness though, there's no way it's going to be considered defensively uber by the council or even a considerable amount of players anyway so please just drop that argument for the sake of making things easier. The criteria for support uber is different than what you mean anyway, it really doesn't allow you to consistently setup a situation where you can sweep effortessly. I mean it does, but for your opponent (not even remotely consistently, but you get what i mean). Again, remember blissey and snorlax? they'd never been banned if unhealtiness wasn't a factor, i don't see how chansey could ever get banned for that. Not gonna happen, the only chance you have to see it banned is for a test ban to prove the meta would be considerably more enjoyable without chansey. I personally think it wouldn't make it much different, but bans (sadly more than test bans) always change everyone's opinion.

Nah. I mean, you still get that chance to stock up, except a considerable amount of people are going to miss it so items would still retain their value. Trust me, devs would never implement it anyway (assuming they're ever gonna consider giving this thread a quick read)

I don't know what we're talking about tbh, i mean you still go on saying it's defensively uber when not even chansey was ever deemed to be defensively uber in a meta where sp sweepers actually had usage, so wtf. It would be easy to define it as defensively uber if it was, but i'm pretty sure everyone else here agrees it's not. So what we're going to talk about now it's going to be how it affects sp hitters, that should be the only argument left and that means discussing about unhealtiness, which is a massive pain since totally subjective. What else is left to be said at this point though? just test ban it and see if we get a significant boost in usage with those sp sweepers.