Xatu

Except I don't have a chomp already top kek. This game is more like a battle simulator than it is an mmo, the mmo features are few and far between and literally based around wasting time. I emplore you to read my entire post bro .. I want it to actually be a mmo not just a lame ass grind with no reward than hurr Durr more battle simulator lol. Don't tell me to quit because I don't agree like everyone else, it's not cool bro, and it's very toxic. I'm literally offering tons of advice as a game dev myself, I'm not just complaining, I'm offering options and solutions. Something I see nobody else doing btw. Y'all seem very complacent with fake content

Ooo boy can't wait for my drip feed of fake content! Seriously guys, what the fuck... You claim you want to balance the game for nubs but here you go locking gameplay mechanics behind a bunch of bullshit that will likely be too hard for casuals to even consider attempting. Making HAs hard to get is toxic as fuck. You are fucking over every single long term player in this game and making it hard to even play the 5th gen battle simulator. You guys seem to fail to realize, after all the bullshit, after I rebreed everything, I'm still just gonna be playing the 5th gen battle simulator. The dungeons being like a fleeting deviation, only lasting maybe an hour before I never have to return again bar legendaries. You guys seem to literally disregard your community left and right. Sacrificing the players base for the ""economy"", well guess what, economy aint shit with no playerbase either. Elvis presly said some very relevant shit, " Always listen to your fans" they are the reason you guys have a project to work on, if you notice you've pissed off everyone with some rediculous update, you should try and fix it not just basically give old members the middle finger pandering to a "new" fanbase that's just going to pay the storyline and then quit after anyway. Here's an idea: instead of focusing on taking vanilla Pokemon mechanics and mmo-ifying them. You should take mmo mechanics and poke-fying them. Grinding for hours for an ability is the opposite of fun, it's lifeless, fucking boring, and like I said before, fleeting. When you start brainstorming new ideas you should ask yourself 1 question: is this fun? You're making a fucking game for the kiddos. It's gotta be fun. I swear to god this game is a missed opportunity. We have the dankest market in any Pokemon game (RuneScape Grand exchange) but no pvp staking?? No player owned housing in cities??? No even attempt or consideration towards open wilderness pvp one day... No attempt or consideration towards open world mechanics, mining for resources, player classes and levels. With features like those you don't even need drip feed updates, they are so fun as it is you can play like that forever, maybe add a new class here and there etc. Nobody gives a fuck about the concept of hidden abilities, when gen 5 was new we all thought it was fucking stupid they were locked behind the dream world and just gened them anyway. Nintendo even undid all that and made them very easy to get in the friend Safari. Learn from their mistakes. Listen to the players who stay for long periods of time, because they see some sort of potential nobody else sees. And please PLEASE consider adding mmo features instead of time wasting features.

no matter what you pay its probably gonna be more than the in game leveling feature (daycare) just lvl your mons to like lvl 75 and then place in daycare the the final 25 levels while you lvl other shit, you rly cant beat 1k a lvl lol

yo yo yo team thread

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Sample Issue has been finished please forgive the ascii bugs they will be fixed shortly Sample Issue: ___ _ __ __ __ __ ___ | _ \___| |_____| \/ | \/ |/ _ \ | _/ _ \ / / -_) |\/| | |\/| | (_) | |_| \___/_\_\___|_|_ |_|_| |_|\___/ | || |___ _ _ __ _| |__| | | __ / -_) '_/ _` | / _` | |_||_\___|_| \__,_|_\__,_| Weekly Article - Page 1/4 PokeMMO: 2012 in Review - Written by Xatu PokeMMO has been out for a very long time now and it can thank you all for providing its support. No bullshit just games is the perfect description for a game that prides itself on not adopting the Pay 2 Win platform. Back in 2012 it was a much different game. The base of the game was a multiplayer emulated experience by no economy or tiers were present. This had some interested and mazing results. Shinies, lucky eggs, and pokemon became the currency and this was all decided collectively by the players. Many old players refer to this time-period as "CatchMMO" as well because breeding was not present. While many disliked this leading to the breeding system being implemented, many players actually enjoyed the exclusivity of certain gift pokemon, and the thrill of catching a pokemon with very good ivs. Although tthis made the battle system much less deep and as such the comp scene was not taken seriosuly for a while. 3v3s were the norm but it still had a very fun atmosphere and with no automated system in place people were required to interact much more. I think PokeMMO can learn from its past and provide similar peramiters to increase the fun a bit and player to player direct interaction. One way it can do so is simply allowing teleportation to the battle arena when they are spectating a battle. Just this small feature alone would bring back alot of the hype lost due to automation. PokeMMO is very long running and i joined in september 2012. It has a bright future ahead for it and i look forward to all the new features it will provide! Page 2/4 Classifieds Team HERB is now recruiting comp players, please mail Jordzi for more info, weekly events, chill peeps, and more! Xatu is offering OT Natu's for cheap! 1 of a kind, just mail Xatu for info. 6x31 Comp for sale by Jerryzoo, ChEaP only 1.2m, 4x egg moves fully EV trained, lvl 100 Come check out Jordzi's Catch-o-rama event! Sunday SUNDAY SUNDAY April 32nd 2018, Over 3m in prizes, be there or be triangular, located at Vermillion Ch 1 Come for the monthly PokeMMO Herald n00bie help-out day. We give away water pookemon in Pewter city to n00bs as well as help them understand whats different in the game as well as give them a new friend! Every last sunday of the month! Come advertise with us! Cheap rates and give your events/team/whatever some exposure PokeMMO Herald will soon be hiring... Stay tuned! ___ _ ___/ __|_ __ ___ _ _| |_ ___ / -_)__ \ '_ \/ _ \ '_| _(_-< \___|___/ .__/\___/_| \__/__/ |_| Page 3/4 OU: Huge win on this last weeks tournament (insert tourney name here) with (playername) taking 1st and (playername) taking second. UU: If hosted that week NU: If hosted that week LC: If hosted that week Dubs: If hosted that week Quick Summary I didnt see that coming, seems to be a good theme to this match. Predictions just about every turn you simply cannot miss this winning match. Coming in at only 23 minutes long thats pretty short for such a high level match. Check out the live commentary on the PokeMMO eSports youtube channel! Pokemon of the week: This PotW is Lucario Everyones favorite husbando... Lucario! Representing the furry community this qt 3.14 has dominated the competitive scene since it was first introduced in gen 4. Alot of it has to do with its amazing stats and typing. Fighting/Steel are both amazing types in every way and it can be ran as a mixed attacker. The usage rate is insane and for good reason. You will see this mon ALOT when playing. Be on the lookout and consider carrying fire or ground moves to deal with this beast. ___ _ __ __ | _ \___| |\ \ / / | _/ _ \ _\ \/\/ / |_| \___/\__|\_/\_/ Player of the week Page 4/4 This weeeks player of the week is Xatu Xatu: Its great to be here X2: Thanks for coming for the interview X2: So how long have you been playing? X: A long time haha, i joined in 2012 and havent left since except for some short breaks here and there X2: Thats awesome, whats kept you here so long? Whats your favorite thing about the game? X: Well ive always loved competitive Pokemon and first got into it back when gen 4 was new. I played shodddy battle and showdown extensively and so i think thats why i stay here. I love battling and i love that my comps/shinies actually mean something here. X2: Yeah thats the thing with the vanilla games, many players like to hunt shinies and breed legit pokes but they quickly find that almost everyone hacks in pokemon. X: Yeah its really unfortunate for those who do grind X2: So onto the next question, if you could change or add 1 thing to the game what would it be? X: Well im known for my suggestions but this one is quite simple. I think they should add more "pay-to-save-time" type features. Stuff like one-time pokerus pills, exp all, drugs that fill all evs, stuff like that. With more donations the devs will be able to work harder and the players dont feel like they are missing anything other than time when buying the items so i think its fair for everyone. X2: Thats great well were getting towards the end of this interview, any closing words you'd like to share with our subscribers? X: Just keep playing dont quit after the storyline lol, theres always gonna be new stuff to breed and new comps to play, donate more as well, server space isnt free so consider donating if you can here and there. X2: Awesome, really solid stuff, thank you for the interview today! X: No problem! X2: Cya online!

nope not extra since youre not advertising any services, etc xD

lol you seem to be forgetting that im also creating jobs and an advertising network from within the game, i need to have resources to pay any writers/mailmen i decide to offer as well as whatever giveaways and comps i want to do through the newspaper. 10k a week is really cheap and to unsubscribe they simply just dont pay for the next month kek if i allowed people to quit then i would potentially have no money to those i wish to hie and almost all the money i will be actually making will be used for giveaways etc

No refunds has been changed only during the fundraiser period. Im writing a mock issue currently. after the fundraiser there will never be refunds offered.

no the old issues will not be posted as to add exclusivity to the service as it exists within PokeMMO itself. During the 40 member fundrasier I will consider making a new, fake issue to provide as an example but seeing as alot of work goes into making a single weekly issue it might take a lil bit and was considered prior.

___ _ __ __ __ __ ___ | _ \___| |_____| \/ | \/ |/ _ \ | _/ _ \ / / -_) |\/| | |\/| | (_) | |_| \___/_\_\___|_|_ |_|_| |_|\___/ | || |___ _ _ __ _| |__| | | __ / -_) '_/ _` | / _` | |_||_\___|_| \__,_|_\__,_| The PokeMMO Herald is the first and only PokeMMO Newspaper! * Sent to you ingame via the Mail system! * 4 Sections: eSports, Articles, Classifieds, and Player of the Week! * Special deals and opportunities to advertise ingame services! * Weekly/monthly prizes and events available only to subscribers! * Low price: Only 10k per week available for 40k a month! The PokeMMO Herald will soon be hiring: Mail-people: dependent, on demand, and payed commission for every issue sent Writers: Well written essay type format to be requested variably often and paid commission Advertisers: Please send me a message/post either here or in-game if you would like to advertise your team, services, or event How to subscribe: Mail in-game-name: Xatu 40k with the message titled: PokeMMO Herald By ordering now you are pre-ordering the first issue (4 weeks) which will be sent out once i've reached 40 subscribers. No refunds, no cancellations, harassing messages will earn you a spot on the permanant blacklist, weekly mail may be late/early. (if 40 members are not collected all the funds will be returned) This thread is for discussing and placing orders for both the newspaper, and ads. Any other messages will be considered off-topic and likely deleted. Current subscribers: 1. Jerryzoo - unpaid 2. Elcoolio 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. 32. 33. 34. 35. 36. 37. 38. 39. 40. Sample Issue: ___ _ __ __ __ __ ___ | _ \___| |_____| \/ | \/ |/ _ \ | _/ _ \ / / -_) |\/| | |\/| | (_) | |_| \___/_\_\___|_|_ |_|_| |_|\___/ | || |___ _ _ __ _| |__| | | __ / -_) '_/ _` | / _` | |_||_\___|_| \__,_|_\__,_| Issue 0 _ _ _ _ /_\ _ _| |_(_)__| |___ / _ \| '_| _| / _| / -_) /_/ \_\_| \__|_\__|_\___| Weekly Article - Page 1/4 PokeMMO: 2012 in Review - Written by Xatu PokeMMO has been out for a very long time now and it can thank you all for providing its support. No bullshit just games is the perfect description for a game that prides itself on not adopting the Pay 2 Win platform. Back in 2012 it was a much different game. The base of the game was a multiplayer emulated experience by no economy or tiers were present. This had some interested and mazing results. Shinies, lucky eggs, and pokemon became the currency and this was all decided collectively by the players. Many old players refer to this time-period as "CatchMMO" as well because breeding was not present. While many disliked this leading to the breeding system being implemented, many players actually enjoyed the exclusivity of certain gift pokemon, and the thrill of catching a pokemon with very good ivs. Although tthis made the battle system much less deep and as such the comp scene was not taken seriosuly for a while. 3v3s were the norm but it still had a very fun atmosphere and with no automated system in place people were required to interact much more. I think PokeMMO can learn from its past and provide similar peramiters to increase the fun a bit and player to player direct interaction. One way it can do so is simply allowing teleportation to the battle arena when they are spectating a battle. Just this small feature alone would bring back alot of the hype lost due to automation. PokeMMO is very long running and i joined in september 2012. It has a bright future ahead for it and i look forward to all the new features it will provide! _ _ /_\ __| |___ / _ \/ _` (_-< /_/ \_\__,_/__/ Page 2/4 Classifieds Team HERB is now recruiting comp players, please mail Jordzi for more info, weekly events, chill peeps, and more! Xatu is offering OT Natu's for cheap! 1 of a kind, just mail Xatu for info. 6x31 Comp for sale by Jerryzoo, ChEaP only 1.2m, 4x egg moves fully EV trained, lvl 100 Come check out Jordzi's Catch-o-rama event! Sunday SUNDAY SUNDAY April 32nd 2018, Over 3m in prizes, be there or be triangular, located at Vermillion Ch 1 Come for the monthly PokeMMO Herald n00bie help-out day. We give away water pookemon in Pewter city to n00bs as well as help them understand whats different in the game as well as give them a new friend! Every last sunday of the month! Come advertise with us! Cheap rates and give your events/team/whatever some exposure PokeMMO Herald will soon be hiring... Stay tuned! ___ _ ___/ __|_ __ ___ _ _| |_ ___ / -_)__ \ '_ \/ _ \ '_| _(_-< \___|___/ .__/\___/_| \__/__/ |_| Page 3/4 OU: Huge win on this last weeks tournament (insert tourney name here) with (playername) taking 1st and (playername) taking second. UU: If hosted that week NU: If hosted that week LC: If hosted that week Dubs: If hosted that week Quick Summary I didnt see that coming, seems to be a good theme to this match. Predictions just about every turn you simply cannot miss this winning match. Coming in at only 23 minutes long thats pretty short for such a high level match. Check out the live commentary on the PokeMMO eSports youtube channel! Pokemon of the week: This PotW is Lucario Everyones favorite husbando... Lucario! Representing the furry community this qt 3.14 has dominated the competitive scene since it was first introduced in gen 4. Alot of it has to do with its amazing stats and typing. Fighting/Steel are both amazing types in every way and it can be ran as a mixed attacker. The usage rate is insane and for good reason. You will see this mon ALOT when playing. Be on the lookout and consider carrying fire or ground moves to deal with this beast. ___ _ __ __ | _ \___| |\ \ / / | _/ _ \ _\ \/\/ / |_| \___/\__|\_/\_/ Player of the week Page 4/4 This weeeks player of the week is Xatu Xatu: Its great to be here X2: Thanks for coming for the interview X2: So how long have you been playing? X: A long time haha, i joined in 2012 and havent left since except for some short breaks here and there X2: Thats awesome, whats kept you here so long? Whats your favorite thing about the game? X: Well ive always loved competitive Pokemon and first got into it back when gen 4 was new. I played shodddy battle and showdown extensively and so i think thats why i stay here. I love battling and i love that my comps/shinies actually mean something here. X2: Yeah thats the thing with the vanilla games, many players like to hunt shinies and breed legit pokes but they quickly find that almost everyone hacks in pokemon. X: Yeah its really unfortunate for those who do grind X2: So onto the next question, if you could change or add 1 thing to the game what would it be? X: Well im known for my suggestions but this one is quite simple. I think they should add more "pay-to-save-time" type features. Stuff like one-time pokerus pills, exp all, drugs that fill all evs, stuff like that. With more donations the devs will be able to work harder and the players dont feel like they are missing anything other than time when buying the items so i think its fair for everyone. X2: Thats great well were getting towards the end of this interview, any closing words you'd like to share with our subscribers? X: Just keep playing dont quit after the storyline lol, theres always gonna be new stuff to breed and new comps to play, donate more as well, server space isnt free so consider donating if you can here and there. X2: Awesome, really solid stuff, thank you for the interview today! X: No problem! X2: Cya online!

4. +1, -1, yes, no, and anything similar are not acceptable posts. Shouldnt mods have to follow the rules too? No matter how memey and whack the post is, hell it could straight up call your game a [piece of shit. Discussion is discussion and this is a discussion board ffs

I suggest we only give out 6x0 shitmon shinies for prizes * doesnt hurt economy cause untradeable * just as viable as current rewards

Classic hivemind mentality New players ain't shit to the old players. New players almost always quit after the storyline, and will certainly quit once they manage the 100 hours it takes to make a team and that still doesn't make them good at battling. What about fucking the ditto market, the lucky egg market, already forcing us to rebreed because of new egg moves as well as refusing to ban anything, is good to you? And that's just scratching the surface Uh yeah it will, the whole point to the dungeons is to get chimps to, wait for it... play more comp High end eh? Because we can totally link up 100 players to raid a boss right? You realize they are probably just gonna be a rehashed winter event right? Great so let's shit on the only players who will be sticking around? Gr8 10/10 suggestion that is Yeah dude MMO features like pvp staking and open wilderness, those 2 features alone could carry this game into space I love change, I ask for change more than anyone else. Just not half baked, fake content drip fed new abilities over the course of 5 years, barred behind overly difficult and boring dungeons LITERALLY DESIGNED TO WASTE YOUR TIME while excluding new players even more making them that much more likely to quit after the storyline like they were going to anyway Oh so mature m8 I r8 this b8 8/8 I believe it is your f8 to be so gr8 I can't w8

Ugghh here we go again with the horrible philosophies.... Dude @Kyu bro, just i have to point out the obvious once again? @redspawn you fought the fight well bro. Hidden Abilities: Locking them behind some weird grind that's not even accessible until after a storyline is absurd. There's like a million reasons why, here's some: * Makes it 100% harder for n00bs to git gud, doesn't matter if you go hidden ability pill route or the dungeon route, it makes it just that much harder for n00bs to be able to actually play pvp when they're already competing with veteran esports masters, if you really cared about making shit accessible you'd simply add HAs as a third ability available anywhere * Rebreeding just to stay relevant is toxic content, puts a bad taste in literally everyone's mouth * People will already NEVER run out of new shit to breed, there's no "oh every Mon is bred, game is dead now" not only do people quit, they also try new sets, and new tiers, for 1 player to have every Mon In every tier with every set is not only ridiculous, it's impossible. Not to mention, after you get done dropping millions and 12 hours of your precious time on ONE Mon, it could still be a piece of shit, or you might simply not be good enough to even use it right * People have been VERY adamant about not liking this philosophy, by going through with this plan you're basically saying "oh yeah I read your comments m8, I completely disregarded them too lololol" you should be trying to please us, not making us quit left and right "for the grind longevity" inb4 12 people tell me to quit because I dislike some of the recent decisions being made. No I'm not quitting, I joined almost 6 years ago, every post I've ever made on these boards offering my honest advice (as a game dev myself I might add) has been out of LOVE for this game. I've seen it go from a thriving MMO to one with 4 matchmaking matches all with the same players over and over and that's so sad to see. People play MMOs because there long term time investments actually mean something. Literally the last 3 updates have done nothing but shit on your long term players and the game has never been so dead. Learn from your mistakes. Move forward with some respect for the players. Add actual MMO features ffs. That is all.

Post got ripped because I called someone out for being toxic? Ok I say yes Why: Game was better when it was more original. Now it's just a fifth gen sim with HAs on the way but locked behind a pointless grind wall.. yay

Umm ok so the font, the GUI, even the color of the GUI are all exactly the same as the OG client. You think thats all just a coincidence?

haha the similarities are too many to count, with the thread coming into existence in 2011, the timing is exactly perfect. There is absolutely no way they didnt use this as the source.

So upon a quick search for java-based pokemon-mmo engines (lol not specific at all). One can easily find this: http://forum.ragezone.com/f706/guide-pokenet-server-setup-760965/ If you look through the thread a bit it becomes quite apparent that this is the same exact engine that the old mmo ran on, with updated version of the engine exists in other places on the interwebz. -->https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=348036 Now i know you guys have some custom code to rip the sprite sheets to be used in the engine but his amount of code must pale in comparison to this source code. The source code is the meat and potatoes, battling, trading, stats etc. Heres the real question guys: If you are using an open source engine to use as a base.... Why arent you crediting the original team?

Quests would be better, since it's /supposed/ to be an MMO afterall

Wow i am genuinely surprised that my post actually drew you to interact with the community which you are responsible for its (current) existence. Heres the thing: When we send you money, well give you even more money back if what you give us back is quality. Dont you wanna make more money? Allow me to explain what i meant by "fake content". While it may be new to this game, many of us are already familiar with it from playing on sims like pokemon shodown. You guys arent nintendo its not a "new" ability. Its just another ability in a list of 3 and all the arbitrary restrictions were literally invented to promote the flash game dream world bullshit. Theres literally no reason to implement it that way other than to waste our time even further. Like i said earlier the breeding process itself is plenty expensive/time consuming as it is. The only reason anyone would get a new ability or a legend, ultimately, is to either use or trade it. While being in a traded state it sits in a box, useless. Thusly the comp players would act as a net to catch the mons that they need, causing most of the good mons bred to be done so specifically for comp play. Comp play is the driving factor to most breeds made. I never asked for an ETA, instead I gave an ETA. I said it would take you about a year to start to see the HAs. I made this deduction based on the amount of time it took for previous updates and also factoring in about how long itll take before all abilities are done before focusing 100% on all elemental dungeons Its not like you guys are hiding anything, we have a super good idea of whats coming. Since i already know, thanks to the info youve given us, i am free to already make my judgments. While the mechanic of auto accepting duels is there, that is the only thing that relates these 2 things together. Haha wowww, do you even like pokemon? Its amazing how it is its why any of us are even here. You clearly didnt even read my suggestion tho bro :( Its aight ill help out w/ some bullet points *Only certain mons are catchable * Its a new region * There are safe areas and ez lvl caps * Areas with dank farming * Auto accept duel * Kill transfers party + items to box resetting players to noobville And variables can be consistently adjusted after release like making party size 3, take out certain mons available, etc. It means get away from the cookiecutter perfectly accurate rom. Take out all the barriors in the water areas after the e4, allow us to cut through trees/burn them. Things of that nature. Then we can explore and find new islands and shit like that. I never even suggested for it to be automated, and that would be hella sketch, the player to player interaction that goes on with staking is amazing and its how you grow to trust someone. Yeah like having us teleport to the arena when we spectate...... Sure theres better shit, and sinks are good but secret bases suck cause they are on routes and can be shared and not truly "owned" Its not pointless because it awards different boosts at the highest levels, rewarding your for your long time spent. Level 99 is no easy task and it brings so much satisfaction. Here the thing about ruining the ditto market.... Youve removed one of the biggest money making methods in the game!!! The GTL friggin used to run on dittos. Because dittos were soooo common, one could easily make a comp genderless only a few stats from perfect... with hidden power too! so few people had the perfects that it was irrelevent, everyone used imperfect shit. People keep asking me to cite examples but i always thought there was a rule where i cant call out other players? If you wanna see look through old reports of mine of through this thread even. Certain members of the TC, 1 in particular, is one of the most toxic ppl on these boards. Its really simple really. When i play the game i keep track of how many people play pvp, as well as how many players i see around the gameworld.... In 2012 this game was LIT AS FUCK this is because many techs blogs wrote articles about this game as well as a 4chan thread almost always advertising the game. Now i can tell its ded.

And its decisions like these that makes the majority of the playerbase not trust the devs, they completely disregard our opinions and do whatever the fuck they want, which is why i suggested a more democratic system. Sure but in return they are offered vanities which are valued amongst all player groups. When you switch out the rewards with something that is ONLY valuable to PvP players.... it becomes an unnessesary burden. Having to pay a shitload to breed should be enough. Then it should be fun enough to keep them here, if they ALL leave so soon sokething MUST be seriously wrong. Gr8... Lets add REAL content then I'm essentially calling out what makes this game "Just Bullshit, No Games"

And putting the carrots behind complicated boring unfun "dungeons" which even further skews the odds in the favor of old time members while n00bs have no chance to get both good stats, hidden ability, AND legenaries with dank basestats.... seems better to you?

You didnt even understand the point i was making with RU. I said it COULD be a thing if the game grew in popularity instead of falling and if the demand is there, it could serve as additional PvP content. Thats all i was saying, the the correlation between lack of mons and the need for more tier for more variation. If dungeons are anything like the winter one then yes, its fake content. Its just the BF dressed up in another way Exactly, its a waste of fucking time. If they really cared about balanced easy to get into PvP they wouldnt bar new abilities and mons behind complicated dungeons and instead make then accessible as a regular ability. Of course my opinions are biased, so is everyone elses. I'm being held to ridiculous standards just because im questioning the status quo The story line players continue to just quit after the storyline, rarely getting into PvP. Both the 5th gen update, this newst update, and the dungeons update all directly affect and harm longstanding members (the ones we should care about most). This is evidenced in overall dead-ness in the game and inability to even do PvP matchmaking. Did more harm then good fissuring trust with core players even further Hardly ANYONE uses the forum. I am very certain youd see more pissed off players, and those that speak other languages than english. Not to mention the droves who quit without telling anyone. I have enough "knowledge" to see members of the TC being toxic on the forums, and enough "knowledge" of seeing the devs consistently making decisions that hurt the community. The point went right above your head. The boss thing refers to having 1 person in charge who can ultimately veto any decision you throw at him if it interferes with personal bias, having no "boss" eliminates that bias by not having 1 guy pulling all the strings and making it a more cocreative process. Well then you have no hope for the future of this MMO. People didnt know Rome fell till like 300 years after. Change = Growth = Life this MMO is stagnated as fuck and you know it. And they are limiting themselves in doing so, like i said the game can be safe using compartmentalized knowledge. MMOs NEED many developers because they HAVE to be adding new shit. They absolutely need more help.

Thats my counter argument, why should i be held to such ridiculous standards? Of course im going to be biased about MY suggestions for the game ffs