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Before it got sharpness it was one of the few fighting types that could compete with Blaziken in the tier.

Shouldn't the council be odd numbered to prevent locks?

As someone that thinks NU is better than sliced bread I feel like most of the BL2 mons are a lot for the tier. Vaporeon and Rhyperior are about the only 2 I could see in it. Maybe Nidoqueen in a test but it would be so wildly diverse in the tier.

Durant is fairly close to the cut off atm. If it falls below is it one of the mons banned from NU?

Why didn't Zoroark move down? Also any updates on the Rhyperior discussion?

Hopefully they follow recent precedent and just ban it in singles.

Though I'm sad Moltres is going to be UU I'm excited to see how my rain Moltres idea is going to pan out.

With a week left before Moltres has their been any idea what tier it'll be placed in?

NU discussions after that?

Should just bring back banning stuff to Ubers instead of trying to fix it.

Why would you ban the move? It would just become NUBL. Otherwise we could have what ever pokemon we wanted in any tier if we banned enough moves. There are options for switch ins against a +2 qwilfish with Quagsire, defensive Qwilfish, haze Golbat ( no rocks of course ). It's also easily revenge killed by a number of special attackers due to its poor special bulk. Theres an off meta option with Eviolite Metang. Not justifying it just adding other possible options. Edit: Also forgot about Ferroseed which would be able to take some pretty serious hits from Qwil and retaliate with a mix of leech seed, gyro ball, and iron barbs.

Can the lower tiers please get some changes to their rewards? getting around 300 wins for a hat sure. However NU and UU both had less than 10,000 matches in December and November. Now sure you can blame the holidays but there's also months well before them that NU is still below 10,000 and UU is passing that by much. Playing unpopular tiers is a choice but not one some of your player base should be punished for.

Loaded dice when?

Speaking of this can we ban acupressure? Lost a ranked match the other day because someone's first 3 uses raised evasion. Might not be as strong as moody with it's inherent boosts but I still has no place in a competitive environment.

So no Braviary and Audino in NU?

Everyone knows whats going to happen with Zapdos. Moltres is potentially more interesting where it ends up personally. Sun is very popular in UU right now and may see some use there (Charizards similar typing, movepool, and ability say otherwise though) or it could be a fun strong wall breaker in NU with heavy flaws. I'm also very biased in the case of lower tiers.

With the chance of Moltres being introduced next month is the TC opposed to it being immediately put into NU? While it does have a good offensive typing it's also Moltres' biggest weakness. The tier has powerful offensive water types (Azumarill/Blastoise/sharpedo) with priority or out speed as well as bulky water types (Mantine/Milotic/slowking) that can switch in. Hurricane does do high damage with specs but then its locked into a low accuracy move with bulky rock and steel types like steelix and bronzor in the tier. Life orb roost sets might be popular but then it loses its wall breaking potential. Mixed with a 4x weakness to rock you really have to give it all of the support it can get for effectiveness.

Could be worth a try. While it does have amazing wall breaking potential its speed really hurts it and the tier is filled with bulky water types now that can take a hit then retaliate. Even then I don't feel its potential is very different if at all between NU and UU. Rhyperior is also revenge killed by a lot of pokemon already in the tier and most (houndoom as example) already use hidden power grass for the plethora of water types. 0 SpA Milotic Scald vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Solid Rock Rhyperior: 219-261 (114.6 - 136.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO 0 SpA Blastoise Scald vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Solid Rock Rhyperior: 192-228 (100.5 - 119.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 SpA Life Orb Houndoom Hidden Power Grass vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Solid Rock Rhyperior: 195-230 (102 - 120.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO Even going harder into bulk with assault vest it still gets 2hko by water and grass moves as well as being even slower than the aforementioned choice band set. The set also loses a significant amount of power and the amount of mons it 2 shots dwindles down. 0 SpA Quagsire Scald vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Solid Rock Rhyperior: 75-90 (39.2 - 47.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO 252+ Atk Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 79-94 (39.1 - 46.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery even a low special attack wall like quagsire can switch in, heal, and win the 1v1. The only downside I see is if you don't properly play around the choice band set it may punch to many holes in a team just on its own. 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 118-141 (58.4 - 69.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Milotic: 124-147 (61.3 - 72.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blastoise: 108-127 (58 - 68.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Megahorn vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Tangrowth: 148-176 (71.8 - 85.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 102-120 (50.4 - 59.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery Edit: How are Braviary and Audino not moving up??

Blaziken and Zoroark haven't dropped down due to usage in UU. It's nice to finally not have constant rubber banding in NU @gbwead. Slowbro seems like a solid counter but I dont feel Golbat is as consistent. 252 Atk Guts Machamp Thunder Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Golbat: 78-92 (42.8 - 50.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock I'm not against testing some of the banned mons in NU though. Electrode was kept from the tier for a while because there was fear it would be to strong and hasnt been an issue.

So Togetic/togekiss, granbull, gardevoir, mawile, whimsicott, mr. Mime and azumarill are about it right? Azumarill and togekiss are definite moves to OU. Granbull, Mawile, and Gardevoir would be fun additions to the lower tiers. Not sure how great mime and whimsicott do.

Boots when?

That's not evasion that's accuracy. Look at Galvantula's ability for reference.

Maybe not. Arcanine could be the one pushed out. Arcs most used set is choice band and Entei competes against it pretty hard. The biggest differences between the two is Arc has close combat and a better defensive movepool. Entei has higher attack, speed, and bulk.

Audino from untiered to NU Braviary from untiered to NU

Obscure bosses like crystal onix, black tyranitar, and pink butterfree would be dope.