ThinkNicer

Gift Pokémon and gift shiny Pokémon cannot be bred, thus you're stuck with 4x25, 2x31/0 on most of them.

Some more videos of week 6 battles

Battling Gasai in 40m

Note! We are trying 2 matches per format this week to speed the competition up. Playoffs would be like normal 1 round per week. Welcome to week 8 AND 9 of the PBS Series!! This thread is for both the Doubles and Singles Series matches. R Bracket for Singles Bracket for Doubles Please read the rules carefully, especially for scheduling. Singles Series Week 8: High Five Woopers vs Yuno & Yuki Pacos Fighter vs Wombo Combo SIhAx vs Super Burrito Bros. Team Quiler vs Vermilion Villains Porygoners vs War of Pacific Team Geschmacksverkalkung vs Team Arte Luke :( vs Super Shell Smash Bros. Singles Series Week 9: Wombo Combo vs SIhAx Team Arte vs High Five Woopers War of Pacific vs Team Geschmacksverkalkung Vermilion Villains vs Porygoners Super Burrito Bros. vs Team Quiler Super Shell Smash Bros. vs Yuno & Yuki Luke :( vs Pacos Fighter Doubles Series Week 8: Wolfe's Lycanrocks vs Yuno & Yuki Long Distance Luvdiscs vs Munchlax Bellydrummers Super Taco Bros. vs Pacos Fighter Team Quiler vs Team Geschmacksverkalkung LukeXD vs Dank Void Doubles Series Week 9: Pacos Fighter vs Team Quiler Team Geschmacksverkalkung vs LukeXD Munchlax Bellydrummers vs Dank Void Yuno & Yuki vs Super Taco Bros. Long Distance Luvdiscs vs Wolfe's Lycanrocks Announce your match in this thread at least 30 minutes before it starts. The deadline for week 8 matches is from now until Monday 15th 08:00 UTC+1 The deadline for week 9 matches is from now until Monday 22nd 08:00 UTC+1 All matches will be played in Vermilion 4

This game is just incredibly bad at retaining comp players, because when you get good enough you don't stay here. You just go to smogon and actually get better. To say that the newcomers have done nothing to prove themselves is the kind of head-stuck-in-the-ass attitude the oldguard has towards comp lol. I bet a lot of newcomers that get good just transition to smogon in stead, or were already playing smogon and realized that you'd have to be batshit insane to keep playing this game instead for the comp aspect of it. That's what we older players are, batshit insane. Let's just stay comfortable in our MMO bubble.

Just fuck already

I really, really, really doubt that those 20 players people list are active AND established players. Active OR established, maybe. I mean even Optic can throw 20 players on that list cmon now :v

I also think 10 tiers is too many and this is one of those competitions that I agree with gb that having SD doesn't make sense. I would love to see DPP again but this isn't the competition to do it tbh. This is about who the best comp team in PokeMMO is right? Showdown has absolutely nothing to do with this, it has never been a part of TT either. I like to see it in PSL. because PSL isn't strictly about who the best MMO players are, but this ain't PSL. 2xOU, UU, NU, Doubles, LC + 2x Team Captain choice seems fine and I'd lower the active and established players requirement to 15 so it's an actual realistic number for 8 teams.

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If there are Looks good, name is uninspired pls fix. Gl to everyone participating C: sadly my team is not up to standard, yet.

If you get knocked out in pvp you can still catch if there is time left. Really nice tour btw yetto. Alvast gefeliciteerd

Welcome to week 7 of the PBS Series!! This thread is for both the Doubles and Singles Series matches. R Please read the rules carefully, especially for scheduling. Singles Series: Wombo Combo vs Luke :( Team Geschmacksverkalkung vs Yuno & Yuki Team Arte vs Porygoners War of Pacific vs Team Quiler Vermilion Villains vs SIhAx Super Burrito Bros. vs Pacos Fighter Super Shell Smash Bros. vs High Five Woopers Doubles Series: Munchlax Bellydrummers vs LukeXD Dank Void vs Team Quiler Team Geschmacksverkalkung vs Super Taco Bros. Pacos Fighter vs Wolfe's Lycanrocks Yuno & Yuki vs vs Long Distance Luvdiscs Announce your match in this thread at least 30 minutes before it starts. The deadline for the matches is from now until Monday 8th 21:00 UTC+1 All matches will be played in Vermilion 4

GG friend. Just fuming over my mistake xd

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Luke :(

How to viridian city?

True to an extent, but I think it's undeniable that Discord makes PvP more accessible than the barely used forums. Like the vaibility that now actually gets some discussion now and then, the threads are basically dead on the forums. Round Table isn't used anymore, people use team servers for that. So that is where the communication has shifted to and I guess we need to move with it partially. I think the forums are still very valuable for documentation and to have as a reference point to link to. Like simply having the general threads and match threads in there. Maybe doing what Dontea suggested is a good move. Having the PvP on a main server, viability + tours. I guess the question is do you keep big tournaments like PSL and WC in a separate server or do you keep them all in one place. The nice thing about Disc is that it is super customizable so if tournament like PSL aren't ongoing, you can simply make it so people are unable to chat in those channels until the next season starts.

You're absolutely correct that PokeMMO doesn't have a main hub for players to come together anymore. Forums are mostly actively used by oldtimers like me. OU Tournaments have no trouble filling with with 256 players at popular times, but we barely get any traction on viability rankings on forums or tournament signups for that matter. Most of these players and a lot of well known ladder/tournament players do not visit the forums. With BlueBreath I already have moved the viability ranking discussion to Discord and while we still don't see the activity you'd expect based on the size of the pvp community, the activity has certainly increased. The next step would be, like you said, to create a hub for unofficial tournaments to be hosted that doesn't rely on the forums mainly. Einstein is already doing this with his 'Einstein tournaments' that are posted on his discord, only the largest tournaments also get posted on the forums. Having a more general hub, where many other hosts could announce their tournaments, would be ideal. Maybe I'll try setting something like that up, then a combination of forum posts and discord server usage could maybe help us reach more people.

I think the betting could actually better be done in the week thread themselves. Do you mind if I copy paste the OP and put it in the weekly threads?

Seems like mostly a problem of organization like you said, but also a soft hand from the hosts themselves. I'd say that there definitely should be a limit of 1 team per country. Like a normal World Cup, even if you have many players, it just means you have to be that much better to end up on the roster. An exception could maybe be NA, as it's basically a continent counting as one country. Splitting it up into West and East seems fair. Merging into other teams should ofc just never happen. Your approach seems to be good, you basically need to select the team managers from the start and then that manager will just have to work it out for themselves in a week or two. As for quantity over quality, I think that also depends largely on the structure of the event. Don't ask for 2LC players while also asking for 2OU players for example, as LC players are just too rare to ever justify 2 slots dedicated to it.

What other big event would you like to see? I'm not sure what kind of tournament you could host that isn't like PSL if you're not focusing on just 1 tier. Yes i've recently discovered that some teams run their own 'PSLs' and that's a bit... 'worrying' I guess? It takes away from the PSL as a unique event would just exhaust potential players more when the actual thing happens I think. Although there not being a 'Beginner Friendly PSL' might've caused these in-team PSLs to pop up. Again maybe we should have a beginner-entry PsL then if teams feel like a lot of their players could benefit from that? I think the thing we have to change most is the mentality that you have to be somewhat good to enter tournaments. But again this is why Single-elims are pretty lackluster. They don't really give newer players more chances so 'why bother'. How would you propose that we reach out to newer PvP players? I'd say that, that is something competitive teams could do the best. When they get new players that they direct them to the forums and unofficials when there are new tournaments posted and encouraging them to sign up. Yes prize pool seems to be the deciding factor more than anything else, and idk how Swiss rounds would actually pan out because I haven't been able to run a tournament like that yet. If someone is 0-3 and gives up, it doesn't have that much of an impact because it would be pretty difficult to make it to top cut with 2 rounds left. What causes World Cups to be chaotic and how would you like to see it done in stead? I haven't been around for a WC yet.

Hello fellow community members, as someone that likes hosting big tournaments with non existing prize pools, I'd like to start a discussion on what people want out of unofficial tournaments. I'll start with myself, cauz I'm just that important. To me unofficial tournaments are the heart of competitive battling in MMO. Officials are stale, single-elimination automated tournaments. They do not really challenge a player or force them to become better in any way. Larger tournaments that are not focused on single-elimination give players multiple chances to improve themselves and promote a healthier competitive scene overall. We cannot expect these kind of tournaments from staff, which is why I believe this is a key function of unofficial tours. Yet, I think I'm not in the majority in this mentality. Some context: I've tried to host two OU tournaments (the most played tier). They were both based on several Swiss rounds with a double elimination bracket afterwards. One (23rd August) I tried to host in two days (saturday + sunday), the tournament itself had around 30 sign ups and in the end around 10 people showed up. The second tournament (last week) I tried to host had a similar structure but this time based on weekly scheduling (like PSL and PBS), which got 10 signups and was therefore cancelled. I've gotten feedback saying that players are tired of tournaments and that there needs to be a break between big tournaments. I don't really understand that when all you need to do is do 1 match per week, for tier tournies the prep required is minimal for veteran players. Besides that, the first tournament I tried to host was when there was no big tournament around at all, yet it didn't succeed. So, I'm kind of scratching my head here. What does the community want out of unofficials? Like I said we cannot expect staff to give us larger tournaments based on single tiers. So why are these ideas being rejected when they are unofficial? Communities like smogon have a large pool of players on a high skill level, this is because Smogon offers multiple large tournaments throughout the year that players can compete in. Something for them to strive for. So if we want this community to improve, we have to have a similar 'competition calendar'. And for all these tournaments to work out, you need to have multiple tournaments running around the same time. This is in my mind how a calendar like that could look: Maybe we simply don't have the playerbase for such ambitions. But I don't think that's the case, as we see PSL get to 100 signups easily and I have around 36 players in quite a niche format. Then maybe the playerbase is just not interested in competition like this, or maybe you guys think of tournaments very differently. So I just really want to know what you guys think of unofficials and their place in MMO. Lastly unrelated to what I said above, but I don't want to start another topic. But many players have been asking for a PSL for players who haven't been able to get drafted, to prove themselves and get familiar with the PSL format. I could arrange a tournament like that and I think it would have the following sign up rules: You may sign up as a player for the PokeMMO Challenger League (w.i.p.) if you meet one of the following conditions: - You haven't been drafted in PSL XIII - You have been drafted, but haven't won a game in PSL XIII - You were a manager and wish to sign up as a player You may sign up as a manager for the PokeMMO Challenger League if you meet the following condition: - You haven't been a manager in PSL XII or PSL XIII. Does that seem like a good idea? Lemme know, peace.

Pacos Fighter vs Luvdiscs on Sunday 10PM GMT+1

Do a registration round the Saturday before, it takes like 40 minutes. Really ain't that hard.