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Additionally, regarding new HAs we will not be locking tier changes this time around as it seemed like that was negatively received last time we did. We will instead decide on a case by case basis for each new mon at the end of a month while proceeding with normal tiering changes.
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With the nerf to sharpness, now 1.3x instead of 1.5, Gallade has once again been freed in OU.
- epicdavenport, Empties and DoubleJ
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What are the two things on the left in the last screenshot. The mash and the ball?
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6 hours ago, redbluegreen said:
You really don't want sleep back in doubles. Sleep is a toxic mess of a mechanic which feels annoying to both play with and against both through the amount of turns that the status lasts and the multitude of low accuracy sleep moves. Typically when the community ask for rng mechanics to be banned from competitive (RNG items, bslam lax back in the day) we are met with a resounding no from the devs, but when something like sleep is already seamlessly removed from the metagame do you really want the headache of having it added back? Spore is already a strong move and Amoonguss is already strong, re-enabling sleep clause is not needed and all it would do is open an old and rotten wound that multiple people were campaigning to be removed for years. Yes there is more counterplay against it now than when it got banned but even before that it was on the verge of being removed for a long time. Think carefully about if this is actually something that you think would make the game more fun, competitive or necessary before campaigning for a change like this.
This is kind of why I asked for the clauses to be put on a toggle. The problem with changing clauses currently is it takes an update to do it so once you make a change its that way until the next update. If it gets put onto a toggle it can be done instantly. If something like that were done it could then be changed back at a moments notice if it ended up being bad.
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What is then, or why is it not?
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These changes will be going live as soon as the current tournament is over.
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With Venomoth moving up via usage this thread has been deemed unnecessary for the time being, it is free to drop back down in the future and if deemed an issue we will revisit this.
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Unfortunately after discussing and thinking about it some, we cannot keep this thread. If a pokemon is to be discussed at least within the framework of the existing tiers it needs to be done so within the appropriate tier thread, here for this pokemon and if deemed a problem, an official thread specifically for a pokemon will be opened. Unless you are seeking assistance in which case I would direct you to the competitive assistance section, located here
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Thoughts on this so far now that we are 2 weeks in? I have heard it may not have lived up to the hype, still looks decent enough looking at usage though.
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If you wish to talk about a ban and if something is worth discussing in its own thread again please do so in the discussion request thread, do not open them up on your own. There may be some unique cases where threads are allowed such as those discussing tiering as a whole and how it is done, bugged mechanics, pokemon viability threads, that don't have a place in the discussion request threads but this is not one of those.
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UU Suspect Test:
Porygon-Z - Discussion thread
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This thread is not going to become a post usage every 6 hours thread to try and prove a point before that starts happening.
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there is a pending vote right now, but the bar for a quick ban is very high as I've said before.
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Currently still using old cutoff for this season, 4.36% to go either way. Next month we will be using a different set of cutoffs for every month, more info on that closer to the end of the first month or at the end with the discussion thread.
Banned to Ubers from OU:
Gallade - Discussion thread/ban post.
To OU from UU:
Salamence - 5.26% OU Usage
Banned to BL1 from UU:
Shaymin - Discussion thread/ban post.
To UU from OU:
Seismitoad - 3.31% OU usage
Toxicroak - 2.91% OU usage
To UU from NU:
Gastrodon - 8.09% UU usage
Zoroark - 5.44% UU usage
Clefable - 4.87% UU usage
Tentacruel - 4.85% UU usage
To NU from UU:
Ditto - 3.91% UU usage
Druddigon - 2.08% UU usage
Gigalith - 1.65% UU usage
Gligar - 4.16% UU usage
Mismagius - 3.04% UU usage
Venusaur - 4.02% UU usage
Xatu - 3.83% UU usage
NU Suspect Test:
Venomoth - TC approved, discussion thread
Tier Changes discussion thread.
I'll also be updating the NU/Untiered lists at some point today.
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Please use the edit button or multiquote when making the initial post if you want to quote multiple things.
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On 6/27/2023 at 6:51 PM, gbwead said:
I haven't played NU ever since Gallade moved up to OU, so I feel my write-up lacks content and is missing an up-to-date perspective. I'm posting it here hoping NU players or TC can complete the write-up if deemed necessary.You're free to go about it, nobody had any objections and I don't see any issues. The test will begin with the end of the month tier changes. Which should go live end of the day today(29th)/early tomorrow
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8 hours ago, gbwead said:
I just want to make sure. If I make a thread, it will get tested in NU, correct? I don't want to make one for no reason.
edit: and yes, it was banned in 2018 and never got retestedSorry was waiting on confirming the want to test it again amongst TC. DM me the write up - I'll pass it by TC so they can suggest any potential revisions/review if need be(usually about a daylong process), if there are any I'll let you know if not I'll give the go-ahead to post it.
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1 hour ago, Ziiiiio said:
Ban gallade is not the best solution imo, but however we did something.
Do we get gallade back when it nerfed(like SD chomp), or once we get more stuff in PVP? I think we need to encourage the diversity of gameplay and continue to address this issue, it might cause regen stall mirror match in many tours.
If and when Gallade gets a nerf it will be trialed again yes.
Tier "Changes" for August
in Competition Archive
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They will be placed in a TC decided upon tier until we see where they naturally fall, so they will be automatically moved up to OU in some cases. UU in others, nothing for the garbage ones.