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JorgeFirebolt

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  1. Venusaur feeling sad about you calling me a copypaster ? Imagine being your only valid argument against mines that I copypaste teams (which sadly you're wrong about it lmao).
  2. Those aint even counters, only lucario is a counter off that list you mentioned, also, who uses blaziken on this metagame with infernape being the fire physical dominating threat, nape and blaziken are only checks to cloyster, you need to learn the difference in between check and counter.
  3. Lol, you're obsessed with my OU team or what? Haven't you seen a Venusaur in OU in your life or a weavile sweeping? LMAO, what's wrong with it bro? Let Venusaur #1 and chill. Btw, since you're sick and impatient to know what my team is, it's a pure balance, with 3 walls, 1 SpDef wall (which resists mostly all special attackers and stop setup special sweepers), 2 Def walls (Venusaur as an status blocker and wores off toxic spikes if needed while walls some threats and it's able to set up some damage and resist some OU threats, and Hippowdon, the most common physical weather control in all OU behind Tyranitar, which I use to wear off setup sweepers such as lefto spdef conkeldurr, dragonite DD, etc.....), then we have 1 scarf trick user which I use as speed control, rotom-wash scarf, which is an amazing way to start a duel, while in the other hand the 2 other pokes are one of them an amazing wallbreaker (Conkeldurr allout attacker) and then we got Weavile as a sweeper, now stop crying and complaining about my team being full of walls, your arguments are trash and based on "Stall is disgusting, so I dont arguee with stall players eksdee". Now that I proved you that my OU team ain't filled of walls, stop complaining, crying, and calling all the players you see using a balance wall lovers. Oh, btw, all the teams I use are made by me, so stop accusing me of copypasting OU teams, I literally built everything I used on this game (Can't tell the same on Gen7OU, but that's not the case, this is MMO OU). Idk where you saw a team like mine, but I did teambuild that team after I won the seasonal tournament seeing the leak of defensive things I had with gengar + gliscor, so this is like a V2 of the team I used on the seasonal tournament #1. Anyways, won't waste more time with you, you're a sick player which your arguments are based on accusing me to be a copypaste stall user, while all your accusations are wrong sadly lmao, next time, elaborate some better stuff and try not slandering me. And about the player who posted a clip of me winning a BR twitch streamer, what's wrong with me winning someone on rankeds with a team made by me with good moves? Didn't know that was illegal bro, sorry. And I think this is my last answer, here's my opinion on "stall is unhealthy": Stall, as Offensive teams or Balance teams, are a way to build, building is healthy, Cloyster having an RNG chance to fuck and ruin your duel isn't healthy. You need to learn to let everyone build whatever the heck they want to and let them use what they want respecting the metagame, that's what you got wrong, you think this game is based off in stall which most players use balance/offense on tournaments to win in early rounds while stall in finals (But that's some cases, Balance is more frequent in all your rounds if you watch them carefully), since a Balance with a good taunt user can stop an stall, and an Offensive with a nice wallbreaker or stallbreaker can trash a whole stall with 1 setup move (Hydreigon for example trashes lots of stall teams being at +2). To summarize, you're defending something that limitates players to build balance and offense, and that's unhealthy, you can't limitate players to build whatever you want them to build, let them build in any style they want, I agree stall can be a shit to deal with, but my friend, even on the team I've shown you which is a balance, I've ways to end vs a stall, if you haven't won a stall in your life, it's because you're mind closed and haven't seen any good stallbreaker/wallbreaker. That's it, wish you learn your points are wrong and trying to slander me on a public post was a big error. See ya
  4. lmao, cause literally in all over the OU metagame there's only 1 solid counter which can survive after a flinch, I feel like you aint reading my answers, cause this is like the 5th time I said this, if cloyster had no king's rock, it would have the same amount of counters togekiss has nowadays on OU. My point is cloyster is a luck-based mon that with shell-smash that gives him an amazing speedcontrol + nice attack combined with skill link and using a hax item which benefits him a lot (41% to flinch if hit rock blast or icicle Spear which is insane) makes him only have 1 damn solid counter in OU which its usage is low as fuck and has a small viability, this mon is called "Lucario", 4% of usage in season 4, and was close to drop to UU if it wasnt about it has no solid counters or good entries against it. Now please, I tell you to read patiently all my answers, and ig that's it.
  5. That set is easier to wall than nasty plot, I'll stop discussing with you since you're comparing a threat with 1 counter with another pokemon that has around 3-4 solid counters in OU
  6. Togekiss has way more counters that can outspeed it than cloyster. Literally togekiss can be stopped by lots of OU mons
  7. So time to start answering this posts, as I said i'd be open to answer an against argument, and I will. "-Because of the lack of Hidden Ability's and Legendary, the meta game has become very defensive, There aren't many ways to punish opponent switches other than Pursuit and Stealth Rocks, as moves like Knock Off and Outrage have been heavily nerfed." OU metagame is dominated by Balance teams, not by stall. Balance teams > Offensive teams Defensive teams > Balance teams Offensive teams > Defensive teams As you can see all the kind of cores can be destroyed by another one. Balance includes all kind of balances, offensive teams like bulky offense, HO or standard Offense can end with a stall team easily. "-Skarmory+Blissey+Rotom-> This core is so fucking famous and is in most balance teams in pvp. " Based easy core that gets destroyed with magnezone + any fighting type. (In answer to all your calcs): This is where you give me a point, as I said, cloyster has lots of ways to get countered, but what if cloyster from nowhere does a flinch thanks to it's abusive 41% chance to flinch a mon lol, even with ice shard you have a 10% to flinch, the only solid counter inside those calcs (which I answered you with that as a counter on my whisps) is any kind of lucario set with priority. "-The vast majority of nerfs in PVP are Offensive Pokemon, such as Swords Dance+Garchomp and Draco Meteor+Hydreigon, so i think if the keep nerfing it the meta game will just get slower and boring" Lol, those got banned for the same reason king's rock will get banned for, they're abusive and their counters are used a few only. In regard, if you defend that "cloyster is ez to wall", check the ONLY SOLID COUNTER cloyster has on OU usage is (Close to drop to UU, but didn't drop, so it's UUBL I think, i'll rectifiy if I'm wrong about it's an UUBL rn). To summarize my arguments against yours: Any kind of team can be played right now on OU, and OU ain't boring, your analysis is wrong, you are limitated to only-ou mons, there's millions of UU/NU mons who're really viable on OU and which are about to rise to OU. Examples: Venusaur, Weavile, Crobat, Heracross, Aerodactyl, Roserade, etc... (Need to say only weavile and aerodactyl about to go up to OU, I don't think the rest will, only heracross has a chance.) And about "Lol cloyster got lots of solid counters", yknow how annoying is to have a nice counter and well built team vs cloyster and get flinched? All your calcs have the risk to lose against a flinch (except conkeldurr, which I consider a good check to cloyster too), it only has 1 damn solid counter at it has a shitty usage due to its lack of viability in OU nowadays if not used inside an Offense team. That stall be fucked by lots of things. Taunt hydreigon, Nasty plot lucario, sub-nasty plot hydreigon, Infernape itself can do a lot of damage (specially mixed nape). That's not right, cloyster as I said in other answers, has only 1 solid counter if no flinch which it's usage is around 4% and was about to drop to UU (Which was kept to UUBL due it has poorly ways to get stopped inside UU). And yeh, cloyster can be stopped easily with fake out + close combat, good point, but, this is wrong. Cloyster is a lategame sweeper, as SD Garchomp was and Dmeteor Specs Hydreigon too. And the mons you mention are really fragile and easy to die, I'm guesing by fakeout+close combat you mean shao, shao loses to cloyster and only has a chance to fakeout once, then sac a mon from your team after fake out, cause you won't let shao die. About those "wall lovers" you're calling out, I've never played stall in my life btw, but I do know """"""wall lovers"""", and yeh, they do complain about cloyster, but I do know players who play offense, or balance, or anything, and agree cloyster king's rock is broken and RNG Based, in resume, unhealthy, there's literally like 4 more posts about RNG Items to get banned, which they will get banned soon I guess at this point. About your arguments about "Stall is unhealthy". In my personal view, any kind of way to play and core is HEALTHY, you're free to play whatever you want the heck, it's way more unhealthy something that has only 1 counter with a 4% of usage and it's RNG Based than playing a stall which has lots of counters, but sadly you need more experience to know what those counters are, here's some examples of stall destroyers that are really popular on this game: Hydreigon taunt, Hydreigon nasty plot destroys any kind of stall, even more if used with focus blast, Conkeldurr allout attacker with speed evs (Tpunch or stone edge, both good against stall), Heracross Swords Dance, Kingdra Focus energy + DD or without DD can be a nice stallbreaker, Togekiss if no rock types or rotom/magnezone can be a beast too. First, all the counters are stopped by flinches except Lucario. Second, that doesn't justify my rotom needed to be a wall, I can use whatever I want, and I choose to use an scarf set to speecontrol or trick annoying mons such as p2, electrode, aerodactyl or chansey. Third, never said Lucario was about to drop to UU, since it has 0 solid counters in UU, that's why it never got dropped, same as haxorus and darmanitan as you said lo. Fourth, Mienshao fakeout isn't even a check to cloyster, you use fakeout once, and then in the next turn you lose one of your 6 mons if boosted. I insist you, watch the full battle, and tell me again a stall user. Your argument is that because rotom is used mostly bold, mines bold, that's wrong man. Need me to show you some basic PvP concepts: Check: Can stop a mon but doesn't fully has a saveswitch or a way to stop it in an unclean switch. Counter: Fully stops it. You're mistaking counter with check. There's literally one solid check to cloyster, and it has a 4% of usage inside OU due it's lack of viability, now go ahead and tell all the OU players to bring lucario in all their teams and find an easy way to build it around without being an offense. Answering first page arguments on another post, dw, be patient. For sure, really healthy, want to know the difference between them both? The first one (Cloyster king's rock) got few solid counters due to this RNG based factor. (The most solid one around 4% of usage) While that core gets destroyed by hydreigon taunt easily, just mentioned 1 of lots of counters to that core, here's another, lucario nasty plot, could keep going on, but I'm to lazy to teach you about how stall is healthy since it's a play method. Lmao, wow, a wall in a metagame, what a surprise bro, there's millions of walls, all of them have counters in their respective tiers, does that surprise you? Noice.
  8. Ok so i'll start with your post since you pissed mf off a lot. "You use 4 pokemons walls". Your wrong. There's 3 walls on my team, if you were smart enough and saw the whole battle you would know that ROTOM AINT A WALL ON MY TEAM, rotom is a trick-scarf user. The only 3 walls on my team (which is the main core) milotic, hippowdon, and venusaur. Second off, don't get offtopic, this isn't about my team and how I teambuild, if you get pissed cause I win with good teambuilding, complain to someone else, not to me or in a public post sharing a twitch clip of a streamer losing vs me, that's really disrespectfull from your part, even more when someone comes to my whisp BECAUSE I WON A DAMN RANKED DUEL with a balanced team vs a cloyster. Third off, i'll answer later when I've time your view points in favor of cloyster ARE REALLY WRONG, don't get me wrong, but, that's what I think, if you think lucario is the only solid counter, go ahead, see it's usage and how it was about to fall to UU.
  9. I'll gladly answer all your posts since you came to my whispers to call me a defensor of stall. Lmao, you getting my points wrong about banning king's rock cloyster. Also, glad you met my balancesaur (which aint a stall, it's a balance with 1 wallbreaker, 1 sweeper, 1 speedcontrol + trick user and setup removals.)
  10. There's no need to explain why, it's frustrating to play a PvP, be about to win, you still got a counter vs Cloyster, and then, from nowhere, when cloyster just sets up Shell smash, tada, you get flinched! It's literally one of the most unhealthy PvP items. For those who say that "King's rock is ok 'cause paraflinch exist eksdee", paraflinch can be stopped by lots of things like natural cure users, electric types, or heal bell cleric users, while king's rock cloyster is just a spammy unhealthy mon with no solid counter if boosted and flinch is done to it's counter. It's not healthy to have a broken wallbreaker such as Cloyster with a 41% to flinch it's enemy and a 10% on each move. I bet I'm not the only one who was having a good match, close to win, then king's rock cloyster comes from nowhere and flinches the pokemon that can stop him. (Example: Magnezone, reuniclus, metagross, chansey/blissey at full health, cofagrigus, etc...) Just ban it, it's the most unhealthy thing you can see on this PvP metagame. I'm open to any against argument and to answer them.
  11. IGN: lachidrago Country: Cuba, USA Preferred Tiers: OU (I inscribed him since he had trouble to join his forum acc).
  12. IGN: JorgeFirebolt Country: Spain Tier: OU Discord: Jorge Firebolt#1504 Notes: GLHF. Willing to give Spain their first World Cup!
  13. In World Cups there's no managers, there's only captains, you just inscribe and join a team which is based on your country or zone. Captains are selected to be the ones who most titles won in the interval between each world cup, and captains are the ones responsible to send line ups each week, if I'm not wrong. That's why World Cup may be an opportunity to show up for first time at the competitive scene. My first competitive team tournament was WC3, with Spain, and I did enjoy a lot playing it as a SMOU player, even though I had small experience inside SMOU and OU.
  14. Won by default, Busso forfeited. (Host already know about this so dw).
  15. https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-1319585697 Gondraa won
  16. After Wirik vs Kanzo. Me vs Endiii
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