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It seems now inevitable that Salamence will drop given its current usage. Perhaps it could help against Crawdaunt? Bold mence switches on it nicely
If Salamence gets banned from UU, I would prefer Crawdaunt being banned too. Never has the tier been centralized that much around one mon until very recently. Porygon Z doesn't even seem close to me in terms of centralization.
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What is this ?
This thread is being opened to discuss Staraptor in the UnderUsed Tier (UU) as it was placed in OU last month while UU was stabilizing, but would drop in December according to usage. The issue of the topic is to decide whether or not it is necessary to ban Staraptor to UUBL.
Characteristics :
-With its recently added hidden ability (Reckless) and great attack and speed stats, Staraptor has the potential to be a destructive force as a wall breaker as a Choice Band user, while also being able to be the hardest hitting Choice Scarf user. It would benefit from Reckless by using Brave Bird and Double-Edge, both being stabbed. When using a Choice Band, it would threaten to kill nearly any Pokemon in the tier on the switch. With a Choice Scarf, it is faster than most of the other Choice Scarf users of the tier, only outsped by the rare Mismagius and Zoroark and tying with Flygon. Its access to U-turn could allow it to facilitate a friendly Pokemon to enter the field.
-However, Staraptor has mediocre defensive statistics and suffers from its Stealth Rock weakness, limiting the amount of time it can enter the field. On top of that, both of its devastating stab moves are recoil moves, limiting its survivability. Basically, Staraptor kills itself. On top of that, its mediocre defensive typing make it so that most priority moves are neutral against it, except Ice Shard that hits supereffectively and is commonly used by Mamoswine. Also, Staraptor being mainly used with Choice items means that you can usually take advantage of it once it is locked.
Reckless : This Pokemon's attacks with recoil or crash damage have their power multiplied by 1.2. Does not affect Struggle.
Calcs :
(Note : I chose a Jolly nature for those calcs, an Adamant nature could arguably work on both Choice Band and Choice Scarf)
Choice Band :
SpoilerBronzong :
252 Atk Choice Band Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Bronzong: 57-67 (32.7 - 38.5%) -- 6.8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Choice Band Staraptor Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Bronzong: 64-76 (36.7 - 43.6%) -- 99.9% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Choice Band Staraptor U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Bronzong: 38-45 (21.8 - 25.8%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
Gigalith :
252 Atk Choice Band Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Gigalith: 69-82 (35.9 - 42.7%) -- 95.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Choice Band Staraptor Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Gigalith: 156-184 (81.2 - 95.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Rhyperior :
252 Atk Choice Band Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rhyperior: 69-82 (31 - 36.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Choice Band Staraptor Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Solid Rock Rhyperior: 117-138 (52.7 - 62.1%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Forretress :
252 Atk Choice Band Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Forretress: 100-118 (54.9 - 64.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Dusclops :
252 Atk Choice Band Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Dusclops: 70-84 (47.6 - 57.1%) -- 87.9% chance to 2HKO
Rotom-Heat :
252 Atk Choice Band Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Heat: 60-71 (38.2 - 45.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Reckless Staraptor Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Heat: 120-142 (76.4 - 90.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Gligar :
252 Atk Choice Band Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Gligar: 82-97 (47.6 - 56.3%) -- 84.8% chance to 2HKO
Golbat :
252 Atk Choice Band Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Golbat: 105-124 (57.6 - 68.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Mandibuzz :
252 Atk Choice Band Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Mandibuzz: 123-145 (56.9 - 67.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Steelix :
252 Atk Choice Band Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Steelix: 38-45 (20.8 - 24.7%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Choice Band Staraptor Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Steelix: 86-102 (47.2 - 56%) -- 17.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Donphan :
252 Atk Choice Band Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Donphan: 111-132 (56.3 - 67%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Choice Scarf :
SpoilerBronzong :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Bronzong: 38-45 (21.8 - 25.8%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Staraptor Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Bronzong: 43-51 (24.7 - 29.3%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Staraptor U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Bronzong: 25-30 (14.3 - 17.2%) -- possible 9HKO after Leftovers recovery
Gigalith :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Gigalith: 46-55 (23.9 - 28.6%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Staraptor Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Gigalith: 104-124 (54.1 - 64.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Rhyperior :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rhyperior: 46-55 (20.7 - 24.7%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Staraptor Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Solid Rock Rhyperior: 78-93 (35.1 - 41.8%) -- 83.4% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Forretress :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Forretress: 67-79 (36.8 - 43.4%) -- 99.2% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Dusclops :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Dusclops: 48-57 (32.6 - 38.7%) -- 97.6% chance to 3HKO
Rotom-Heat :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Heat: 40-48 (25.4 - 30.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-Heat: 81-96 (51.5 - 61.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Gligar :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Gligar: 55-66 (31.9 - 38.3%) -- 94.6% chance to 3HKO
Golbat :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Golbat: 70-84 (38.4 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Mandibuzz :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Mandibuzz: 82-97 (37.9 - 44.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Steelix :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Steelix: 25-30 (13.7 - 16.4%) -- possible 9HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Staraptor Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Steelix: 56-68 (30.7 - 37.3%) -- 0% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Donphan :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Donphan: 75-88 (38 - 44.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Flygon :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Flygon: 139-165 (89.6 - 106.4%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
Sigilyph :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Sigilyph: 139-165 (94.5 - 112.2%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
Krookodile :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Krookodile: 139-165 (81.7 - 97%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Staraptor Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Krookodile: 156-184 (91.7 - 108.2%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Staraptor U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Krookodile: 90-108 (52.9 - 63.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Crawdaunt :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Crawdaunt: 132-156 (95.6 - 113%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Staraptor Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Crawdaunt: 146-174 (105.7 - 126%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Staraptor U-turn vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Crawdaunt: 86-102 (62.3 - 73.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Snorlax :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Snorlax: 165-195 (61.7 - 73%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Staraptor Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Snorlax: 182-216 (68.1 - 80.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Rotom-Mow :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Rotom-Mow: 109-130 (87.2 - 104%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Staraptor U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Rotom-Mow: 72-86 (57.6 - 68.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Nidoqueen :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Nidoqueen: 130-154 (78.7 - 93.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
(Could use more bulk)
Arcanine :
-1 252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Arcanine: 93-111 (56.3 - 67.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Blastoise :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Blastoise: 117-138 (75.9 - 89.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Feraligatr :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Feraligatr: 117-138 (72.6 - 85.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
(Could use more bulk)
Gastrodon :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gastrodon: 106-126 (48.6 - 57.7%) -- 94.5% chance to 2HKO
Swampert :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Swampert: 127-150 (61.3 - 72.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Xatu :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Xatu: 156-184 (90.6 - 106.9%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
Bisharp :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Bisharp: 58-69 (41.4 - 49.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Staraptor Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Bisharp: 260-308 (185.7 - 220%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Vaporeon :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Vaporeon: 114-135 (48.1 - 56.9%) -- 38.7% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Jellicent :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Jellicent: 105-124 (50.7 - 59.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Spiritomb :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Spiritomb: 79-94 (50.3 - 59.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Quagsire :
252 Atk Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 93-111 (46 - 54.9%) -- 10.5% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Priority moves against Staraptor :
SpoilerMamoswine :
252+ Atk Mamoswine Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 102-120 (63.7 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Arcanine :
252+ Atk Choice Band Arcanine Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 89-105 (55.6 - 65.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Toxicroak :
252 Atk Life Orb Toxicroak Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 60-71 (37.5 - 44.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Toxicroak Vacuum Wave vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Staraptor: 55-66 (34.3 - 41.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Machamp :
252+ Atk Guts Machamp Mach Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 76-90 (47.5 - 56.2%) -- 80.9% chance to 2HKO
Medicham :
252+ Atk Life Orb Huge Power Medicham Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 53-64 (33.1 - 40%) -- 100% chance to 3HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Huge Power Medicham Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 53-64 (33.1 - 40%) -- 100% chance to 3HKO
Crawdaunt :
252+ Atk Choice Band Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 94-112 (58.7 - 70%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Feraligatr :
252+ Atk Life Orb Feraligatr Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 56-68 (35 - 42.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Spiritomb :
252+ Atk Choice Band Spiritomb Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 103-123 (64.3 - 76.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Donphan :
4 Atk Donphan Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 48-58 (30 - 36.2%) -- 41.2% chance to 3HKO
Cloyster :
252+ Atk Cloyster Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 84-98 (52.5 - 61.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Bisharp :
252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 109-130 (68.1 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Azumarill :
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Staraptor: 84-99 (52.5 - 61.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Sets on Staraptor :
Choice Scarf - Brave Bird; Double-Edge; Close Combat/Final Gambit; U-turn
Choice Band - Brave Bird; Double-Edge; Close Combat; U-turn/Quick Attack
Pursuit could arguably be used, utilizing its ghost immunity.
Notable checks/counters :
-Bronzong is a steel type that isn't weak to fighting type, which makes it an ideal Staraptor check. At the moment, it is the 4th most used UU Pokemon, its overall utility makes it easy to fit into any team. However, Bronzong does not have a reliable recovery move, mostly relying on leftovers and still gets 3 Hit KO'd by Close Combat from Choice Band Staraptor. It is pretty much a counter to Choice Scarf Staraptor.
-Gigalith could switch on both stabs, but not on Close Combat.
-Rhyperior, if fully invested in HP, can even switch on a Choice Scarf Close Combat. Beware if it is Choice Banded.
-Forretress "only" gets 2 Hit KO'd by Choice Banded Brave Bird, and can tank the other attacks easily enough. It could also use a Rocky Helmet.
-Dusclops can only be hit by Brave Bird but would die in 2 hits from the Choice Band version.
-Bold Rotom-Heat could serve as some emergency flying resist if it is full health and rocks are not on the field.
-Steelix could have a nice niche as it also tanks Staraptor's stabs very easily. But again, beware the Choice Banded Close Combat.
-Druddigon with Rocky Helmet and Rough Skin could pretty much kill Staraptor by switching into one of his recoil moves, which kill it in 2 hits.
Feel Free to discuss on this matter.
- TohnR, DoubleJ and DiosSlurpuff
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What is this ?
This thread is being opened to discuss Crawdaunt and its dominant existence in the UnderUsed Tier (UU) during this month where it has been tested in the Tier.
Characteristics :
-Crawdaunt's great attack stat paired with its recently released hidden ability (Adaptability) allows it to be a devastating and centralizing wallbreaker in the UU meta. There are barely any Pokemon that are able to switch without risking to get 2 Hit KO'd or chasing it out of the field. On top of that, Crawdaunt has access to 2 good setup moves : Swords Dance and Dragon Dance.
-Crawdaunt is however quite frail and slow; when it is invested in speed, it is still able to outspeed any defensive Pokemon (with an Adamant nature) except Golbat. Most offensive Pokemon outspeed Crawdaunt. To compensate, Crawdaunt has access to Aqua Jet, a priority move that benefits Adaptability, and a setup move that can raise its speed : Dragon Dance (Jolly Crawdaunt outspeeds the whole UU Tier at +1 speed, except Durant)
Adaptability : This Pokemon's moves that match one of its types have a same-type attack bonus (STAB) of 2 instead of 1.5.
As of now, Crawdaunt has 17.18% usage for 59.72% winrate. It forced most teams to use the most reliable checks, being Toxicroak (24.89% usage for 57.59% winrate) and Poliwrath (12.17% usage for 61.01% winrate). Rotom-Mow also rose in popularity partly because it is a great Pokemon to have in order to revengekill Crawdaunt.
Calcs :Choice Band :
SpoilerToxicroak :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Crunch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Toxicroak: 101-119 (63.5 - 74.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Crawdaunt Aerial Ace vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Toxicroak: 150-178 (94.3 - 111.9%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
Poliwrath :
252+ Atk Choice Band Crawdaunt Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Poliwrath: 79-94 (40.1 - 47.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Tangrowth :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tangrowth: 90-106 (43.4 - 51.2%) -- 3.1% chance to 2HKO
Vaporeon :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Vaporeon: 138-164 (58.2 - 69.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Quagsire :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 114-136 (56.4 - 67.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Gastrodon :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gastrodon: 130-154 (59.6 - 70.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Golbat :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Crabhammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Golbat: 106-126 (58.2 - 69.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Umbreon :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Crabhammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Umbreon: 120-142 (59.4 - 70.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Crawdaunt Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Umbreon: 144-170 (71.2 - 84.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recoveryBronzong :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Bronzong: 94-112 (54 - 64.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Mandibuzz :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Crabhammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mandibuzz: 124-148 (57.1 - 68.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Forretress :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Crabhammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Forretress: 102-122 (56 - 67%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Rotom-Heat :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rotom-Heat: 136-164 (86.6 - 104.4%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
Flygon :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Flygon: 86-102 (55.4 - 65.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Medicham :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Medicham: 90-106 (66.6 - 78.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Machamp :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Machamp: 86-102 (52.1 - 61.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage
(Could be invested in bulk)
Heracross :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Heracross: 90-106 (58 - 68.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage
Arcanine :
-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Arcanine: 116-140 (70.3 - 84.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Sharpedo :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Sharpedo: 72-85 (49.6 - 58.6%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
Yanmega :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Yanmega: 80-96 (49.6 - 59.6%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
Sigilyph :
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Sigilyph: 86-102 (58.5 - 69.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Swords Dance (+Life Orb) :
SpoilerFlygon :
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Flygon: 148-177 (95.4 - 114.1%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
Medicham :+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Medicham: 156-185 (115.5 - 137%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Machamp :
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Machamp: 146-174 (88.4 - 105.4%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO(Could be invested in bulk)
Heracross :+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Heracross: 156-185 (100.6 - 119.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Sharpedo :+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Sharpedo: 123-146 (84.8 - 100.6%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
Yanmega :+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Yanmega: 140-166 (86.9 - 103.1%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
Sigilyph :
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Sigilyph: 148-177 (100.6 - 120.4%) -- guaranteed OHKODragon Dance (+Life Orb) :
SpoilerFlygon :
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Crunch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Flygon: 203-239 (130.9 - 154.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Flygon: 101-122 (65.1 - 78.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Medicham :
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Crunch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Medicham: 211-250 (156.2 - 185.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Medicham: 107-127 (79.2 - 94%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Machamp :
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Machamp: 101-120 (61.2 - 72.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage
(Could be invested in bulk)
Heracross :
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Crabhammer vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Heracross: 265-312 (170.9 - 201.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Crawdaunt Aerial Ace vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Heracross: 317-374 (204.5 - 241.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Heracross: 107-127 (69 - 81.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage
Sharpedo :
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Crunch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Sharpedo: 169-199 (116.5 - 137.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Yanmega :
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Crunch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Yanmega: 190-226 (118 - 140.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Sigilyph :
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Crunch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Sigilyph: 406-478 (276.1 - 325.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Sets on Crawdaunt :
Choice Band - Crabhammer; Crunch; Aqua Jet; Close Combat/Aerial Ace
Life Orb/Mystic Water - Crabhammer; Crunch; Aqua Jet; Close Combat/Aerial Ace
Life Orb/Mystic Water - Swords Dance; Crabhammer; Crunch; Aqua Jet
Life Orb/Mystic Water - Dragon Dance; Crabhammer; Crunch; Aqua Jet/Close Combat/Aerial Ace
Always Adamant nature, except for the Dragon Dance set (Jolly)
Aerial Ace is an option as it allows Crawdaunt to hit super effectively a very common check : Toxicroak.
Notable checks/counters :
-Impish Poliwrath (The most reliable counter there is in the tier, this Pokemon rose from NU to become a defensive staple in UU. Its great bulk, Water Absorb ability and dark resist allows it to switch on Crawdaunt without much risks, but it could still be dangerous if there are hazards on the field).
-Toxicroak (An offensive check that can afford tanking one hit thanks to Dry Skin and its fighting type, and can chase Crawdaunt out. It is the 2nd most used Pokemon in the tier when it was 16th last month).
-Tangrowth (Its very strong defensive stats allow it to switch safely on any Crawdaunt attack as long as there are no hazards on the field or Crunch doesn't drop its defense stat).
-Multiple Water Absorb Pokemons such as Vaporeon, Quagsire, Jellicent, Gastrodon (Storm Drain). These would not live 2 hits if they switch on a choice banded Crunch.
-Mandibuzz (Provides a reliable dark resist that can also chip Crawdaunt with Rocky Helmet. It would dislike switching on a Crabhammer).
-Rocky Helmet Druddigon, with its Rough Skin ability, can deal a lot of damage to Crawdaunt when it gets hit, while also tanking the Crabhammers nicely.
Feel free to give your input on the subject.
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6 hours ago, CarolML said:
I can take it?
Not after they lost a game already sry
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500k Belgium advances to semis
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2 hours ago, TohnR said:
I mean fair but if you disregard usages strict rule, then you have to provide actual arguments or reasoning to TC's decisions.
You can't just drop random incoherent movements and expect it'll be fine.
So far all arguments I've read from TC towards Crobat & Ditto to raise to OU were purely usage related. Again they are not bad changes, it's just extremely confusing.
So far all arguments I've read from TC about Sharpedo & Quagsire to raise to UU were ... wait ? Yea there wasn't even any justification to these ever
I'm just asking for facts. We can't discuss if no point is made in the first place ...I believe Sharpedo is extremely strong in NU with speed boost, being able to run physical/special/mixed sets and not being revenge killed by any scarfer makes it a threat that I don't think NU can handle properly. The fact that Poliwrath will rise to UU would make things even worse, I prefer Sharpedo being in the same tier as Poliwrath.
As for Quagsire, I voted for it to stay in NU as it is doing fine in that tier and is a good check for top tiers mons like Blaziken. In my opinion Quagsire should only rise in UU by usage
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I think it is outrageous that a hidden ability as strong as Gliscor's Poison Heal gets released at the start of a Shiny OU tournament. It catches everyone off guard and favours the richest players who are able to immediately get a competitive Poison Heal Gliscor to get a huge advantage for the rest of the tournament as no one is supposed to be prepared to face it.
Can something be done for the timing of the releases, like releasing "weaker" hidden abilities during official tournaments?
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12 minutes ago, WorldCupMMO said:
Matches can be played from Sunday October 18th 12PM BST until Sunday October 25th 11:59PM BST
Don't you mean Tuesday?
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31 minutes ago, LadyR0sy said:
Second point - This year no one wanted to host the world cup and the community was already saying publicly there wasn't going to be one, and then and only then the actual host did it. (... despite no one wanting to host it, once things got under way, other possible hosts popped out LOL ).
RDL being a trusted member of our community, I am still surprised to this day that he was not chosen
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Are Event rewards shinies tradeable to this NPC? If so, do they have a bonus?
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2 hours ago, pachima said:
Rotom-Wash has literally nothing in the tier (Besides Serperior, which people want banned), that punishes defog. That shouldn't happen at all. Shifting momentum offensively against defog users is one of the best ways Offense/Balance can get theirselves advantage. You simply cannot do that against Rotom-Wash. No matter what you send against it, Rotom can find itself able to regain momentum back with a slow Volt switch after defogging or a status move.
I lied. There is one pokemon: Hydreigon. (Which is nerfed either way)
I don't see Rotom-Wash as a problem in OU.
You mentionned Hydreigon and Serperior being able to punish the defog. There are others :
-Breloom
-Venusaur (sure, it is not common)
-RotomMow
-Special defense Garchomp winning the 1v1 or any toxic Garchomp could punish it
-Special attack DracoMeteor Garchomp pressures it and has very few switches
-Chansey/Blissey switching for free and getting all the momentum with teleport
I might have forgotten some other ways.
It is indeed a top tier, if I had to rate him I would put him in S tier alongside Garchomp. What I mainly like is the ability of Garchomp and RotomWash to potentially check each other depending of their sets. In my eyes this is not a sign of an unhealthy meta.
I know the thread is about Serperior and I'm sorry if I disgress, but I feel like your complaint about RotomWash and Garchomp is just not right.
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Group A
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Netherlands[0] vs [0]African Nations 
OU: Powerdrib VS Luke
UU: Robbinho VS Azphiel
NU: Dindra VS MadaraSixSix
DB: LukertTTV VS Xebec
CC Netherlands LC: Quuinn VS PoseidonWrath
CC African Nations OU: KevinDaPokeTrain VS Lunarck─────────
Canada [0] vs [0]Spain
OU: Eedays VS Pablobacas
UU: Necasintrouble VS Axellgor
CC Canada DUBS: JeanMarcH VS Mugiwarabru
CC Spain UU: Sargeste VS RealDevilLegend─────────
Group B
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Taiwan[0] vs [0]Colombia 
OU: Bynextdorr VS IncursioZ
CC Taiwan OU: ZioMOJI VS MegaBladers
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Group C
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Portugal[0] vs [0]Belgium
OU: TheSosukeAizen VS Aerun
UU: DeusBruno VS Stelian
NU: millernine VS Smadagos
DB: Losoned VS kharma
CC Belgium OU: Razimove VS iMat
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Germany [0] vs [0]China 
UU: Pottina VS ShanQi
NU: katangaaa VS WeiErLT
DB: CaptnBaklava VS DTNight
CC Germany NU: LynxL VS AsmodeuSA
CC China NU: RexB VS woxiangsinile100k each, 200k each African Nations player, 500k (up to 1M) African Nations wins
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4 hours ago, TohnR said:
156 Def very relevant Calc
Oh I only used the spread that gb suggested in the previous post... Feel free to think that using defense is irrelevant (that would be very narrow minded in my opinion), but since you hate defense EVs so much you might put these 156 EVs in HP instead?
252+ Atk Life Orb Toxicroak Close Combat vs. 156 HP / 0 Def Feraligatr: 129-152 (71.6 - 84.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
It still lives even after rocks and your previous point was wrong.
Furthermore I believe that most of the pokemons you listed previously are unreliable (for example Mandibuzz needs to be healthy + no rocks, Druddigon only weakens Feraligatr but dies in the process... and is scarf Roserade really viable in a tier dominated by Bronzong and Crobat?) and except Poliwrath, they can only answer one (or at best 2) specific Feraligatr set, and so in a very unconvincing way.
Feraligatr's sheer power and versatility are too much for UU to handle.
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6 minutes ago, TohnR said:
Toxicroak needs to be above 30ish or whatever +0 Crunch does as it is capable of OHKOing Feral after rocks
Don't really understand the 68%
You do know Toxicroak has Close Combat and is mainly played Adamant Life Orb with that move right?
252+ Atk Life Orb Toxicroak Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 156 Def Feraligatr: 109-130 (68.1 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Crunch vs. -1 0 HP / 4 Def Toxicroak: 153-181 (96.8 - 114.5%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
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Overall I like the idea of Assault Vest to help checking the uncheckable special attackers (Hydreigon)
But introducing the item for the sake of helping vs Serperior seems wrong as the few Serperior checks such as Togekiss Volcarona or Chandelure would struggle vs Assault Vest users like Mienshao or Tyranitar, and I fear that the addition of the item would indirectly help Serperior instead of helping against it
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Group A
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African Nations [0] vs [0]Venezuela 
OU: Lunarck VS Aisker
UU: TheDH VS CarolML
NU: Tawlaa VS AngeloDLZ
DB: Xebec VS Gabuchox
CC African Nations OU: Luke VS ITekashi
CC Venezuela OU: MadaraSixSix VS Wallaro─────────
South Korea [0] vs [0] Canada
CC South Korea DUBS: nhhn VS JeanMarcH
CC Canada DUBS: squirrelmix VS fntcz─────────
Group B
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Peru [0] vs [0] Taiwan
OU: YamiGod VS ZioMOJI
CC Peru OU: ryuner VS ArgoWang
CC Taiwan OU: Eliaswhitelion VS Bynextdorr─────────
Group C
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Belgium [0] vs [0] Chile 
NU: Krilliin VS MendeeZ
DB: iMat VS Sebat
CC Chile UU: Mkns VS SnowOT─────────
Cuba[0] vs [0] Portugal
NU: Wolfang VS millernine
DB: DarmoiZ VS Losoned
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Group D
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Philippines [0] vs [0] Brazil 
OU: HirotoWS VS Elvessss
UU: Etoshimura VS DridrigoFK
NU: xioluu VS Belegado
100k each, 200k for each African Nations player
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On 9/22/2022 at 5:11 PM, Pcoookie said:
take
take
take, 200k
IGN?
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44 minutes ago, Poufilou said: Philippines [0] vs [0] Team Latam
OU: tooezforme VS CaioXLive
take
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Group A
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Venezuela [0] vs [0] Spain
OU: ITekashi VS Pablobacas
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African Nations [0] vs [0] South Korea
OU: Lunarck VS Arkmage
UU: PoseidonWrath VS leehiii
NU: Tawlaa VS Squirrelmix
DB: GodXebec VS Seulang
CC African Nations OU: Luke VS Mecyma
CC South Korea DUBS: Azphiel VS nhhn─────────
Netherlands[0] vs [0] Canada
DB: Lukerttv VS JulianFNT
CC Netherlands LC: Quinn VS Eedays
CC Canada DUBS: Kevin VS DocPBC─────────
Group B
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Peru [0] vs [0] UK 
OU: Ryuner VS FredfHK
UU: zAnderson VS xNotYourFriend
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Group C
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Belgium [0] vs [0] Argentina 
OU: Aerun VS VosFijate
DB: Kharma VS TiToo
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Group D
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China[0] vs [0] Brazil
OU: heichicoda VS Elvessss
NU: woxiangsinile VS Belegado
CC China NU: ShanQi VS fefeco
CC Brazil DUBS: DTNight VS Shentiger─────────
Mexico[0] vs [0] Germany
OU: Mausito VS ChuckUnso
DB: Akarukokuyo VS Pottina
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Philippines [0] vs [0] Team Latam
OU: tooezforme VS CaioXLive
100k each bet, 200k for an African Nations player win
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7 minutes ago, caioxlive13 said:
Brazil secured a tie, but anyone are free to bet on their tie. Portugal didn't secure the tie. Unless the post of week 1 are outdated, they're winning by just 1-0(Which can be reversed into a 4-1 by argentina.)
The post of week 1 is indeed outdated, Portugal is currently winning 3-0 and you should have checked this before posting your fraudulent bet
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10 minutes ago, nicollassiittoo said:
@Azphielign?
Take
Azphiel
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Could you also update the scores please?
nvm you just did it
[Banned to BL1] Staraptor
in Competition Archive
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To be honest I'm not so sure. It looks really overwhelming for sure but it seems to me that Staraptor pretty much suffers from the Darmanitan syndrome :
-Both are weak to rocks
-Both are very frail
-Both kill themselves when they hit
The priority moves calcs are especially relevant to me because as Staraptor is likely to easily lose health, it could be in range of most of these