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  1. kiwi

    World Cup week #4

    We are not dead yet
  2. kiwi

    World Cup week #4

    Spain A vs China A Ou: DarkQuiler vsyegod 15mins to start
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    World Cup week #3

    https://gyazo.com/73e51b60cfc6f55b211d34ea286b9918 gg
  4. kiwi

    [OU Discussion] Togekiss

    It's a good option if you want to keep the pokemon outside of ubers but being a complex ban and seeing the case of Dug and Wob I don't think thats going to occur. Still being only my thoughts so dont mind me at all.
  5. kiwi

    [OU Discussion] Togekiss

    Without ''assuring'' the flinch it won't be the same, if that is done who will play Togekiss?
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    [OU Discussion] Togekiss

    I'm sorry to say this but doing this is the same as banning it from the tier. No flinch no Togekiss
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    [OU Discussion] Togekiss

    I said if the Toge doesnt run recovery move which is possible if it is sub+np variant because the need of coverage
  8. kiwi

    [World Cup] Bets and prediction

    @LKrenz taking Zekn (only will pay if he plays alone)
  9. kiwi

    [OU Discussion] Togekiss

    I'm not agree with FNTCZ but I do not see Togekiss banworthy. It is weak x2 to rocks, normal speedtie (not fast not slow) and all of it's sets have good checks in the current meta. With a Sub+NP set it has good matchup against offensive and balanced builds but it's weak to common faster threats without sub up. Scouting for it's set is not that difficult because the lack of raw power, so you can hit it to break sub most of times without being in a very bad situation if its not that set. Checks to this set: Scarf TTar, Scarf Magne with prior damage, CB Darmanitan (not a switch in), Scarf Darma with prior damage, SubDisable Gengar wins 1v1 if it doesn't carry recovery move and even CB Weavile rkills it.. 252 Atk Tyranitar Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 186-218 (97.3 - 114.1%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after sandstorm damage and Leftovers recovery 252 SpA Magnezone Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Togekiss: 138-164 (72.2 - 85.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252 Atk Sheer Force Darmanitan Flare Blitz vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 147-174 (76.9 - 91%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252 Atk Choice Band Sheer Force Darmanitan Flare Blitz vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 220-259 (115.1 - 135.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO Those three can kill it easily if toge is not under the sub. If it makes to put a sub its when the real pain starts because of its good coverage with Aura Sphere and ability to do great damage or even flinch in return. But even in that case it have some checks to it. Chople TTar switching in the turn he goes for sub/np, Gengar as I said above, Dnite can deal great damage or getting rid of the sub 100% bc of Inner Focus. With NP+Heal Bell/TW it can destroy fat teams alone without any help but still being slower and potentially revengekilled if it kills something. Without Aura Sphere this toge is not scary if you have a reliable flying resist that can threaten it. If it is the scarf set its easily stopped if you dont run offense and even in those matchups you can pivot around scouting for what it decides to go for. Also I do not see toge beating special walls without NP so this set has a good list of checks and counters. Sorry for my english that may make this not clear as I wanted to but it is what it is. My conclusion from this is the most painful set is the sub one and with a good flying resist and some predictions it is beatable. Pls do not use Aerodactyl for it is just carrying a dead weight.
  10. kiwi

    [OU Discussion] Togekiss

    scarf toge is the worse toge man
  11. kiwi

    [OU Discussion] Togekiss

    Use SubDisable Gengar
  12. kiwi

    World Cup Week #1

    Conspiracy against France B the movie. Available soon

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